Subj : If you still have the T40.. To : mark lewis From : August Abolins Date : Mon Jan 13 2020 01:44:28 On 1/12/2020 9:35 AM, between "mark lewis : August Abolins": AA>> The fan probably needs complete replacement. But I can get AA>> it going by forcing air into the exhaust to spin the blades AA>> *before* powering it up. ml> FWIW: be careful doing that... compressed air can spin the ml> fan faster than it is designed for which can lead to the ml> metal shaft heating and wearing out the nylon bearing which ml> will lead to more problems... when we blow our fans out, we ml> make sure to hold them somehow to prevent them from spinning ml> up so as to avoid this... I hear ya. I am aware of the damage compressed air can do when causing over-spin. I use human power. ;) In my case, the fan *has* to spin a bit or it won't boot. It doesn't really need much. In fact, after bootup, when the computer is still cold, the fan doesn't spin at all. The trick is to loosen up the fan enough to pass the fan-spin check during the first few seconds at bootup. Ideally, it would be nice to replace the fan. But it would also be nice if I could find the palmrest that I ordered years ago. :( Then, I could do both replacements at the same time. ../|ug --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0) .