Subj : HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion To : wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu From : COD Weather Processor Date : Mon May 05 2025 20:01:49 FOUS30 KWBC 052001 QPFERD Excessive Rainfall Discussion NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD 401 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025 Day 1 Valid 16Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS... 16z Update: Generally only minor changes to the inherited risk areas with this update. The Slight risk over the Southern Plains was expanded west into more of eastern NM based on guidance trends. Convection with locally high rates should expand over eastern NM between 00z-06z this evening. The Marginal risk was expanded to the TX coast to account for ongoing convection over south central TX. Guidance differs on the evolution of this activity, but some chance for at least modest upscale growth into a convective cluster or two that could result in localized flash flooding. A Marginal risk was also expanded southward into more of central and eastern VA. Clearing skies will result in isolated to scattered convective development over this area by this afternoon. Cells might tend to move along quick enough to prevent FFG exceedance (with FFG quite high), but the rainfall will be efficient and cells will be capable of dropping a quick 2" on a localized basis. So while it generally probably won't cause more than flood advisory type impacts, if a heavier cells moves over an urban area could certainly see an isolated flash flood. Chenard ....Previous Discussion... ....Southern High Plains... Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing downpours and a risk of excessive rainfall will become more numerous during the day across parts of New Mexico that spreads south and east into parts of western Texas later in the day and overnight as moisture deepens and mid/upper height falls eject out over the plains with an MCS likely to form during the evening across west Texas/easter New Mexico. Given antecedent conditions and soils...thinking is that this is a higher-end Slight risk over parts of Texas ls in this area are well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain than normal will be needed to result in flash flooding. There was little need to make more than minor adjustments to the previously- issued ERO. ....Northeast... There is a continuing risk of excessive rainfall as a closed low meanders over parts of the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes region...leaving the Northeast US under diffluent flow at upper levels while moisture continues to be transported into the region at low levels. Now that there has been an increase in model QPF from the global models and some signals from the HREF for 3 hr QPF of 2+ inches in parts of southern NY and coastal Southern New England...hoisted a Slight Risk area there. The coverage extended a bit northward and westward to cover areas that received 1.5 to 2.75 inches on Sunday. However...the area has been dry for a while and stream flows are generally low which should help mitigate the flash flood risk over a broad area. The Marginal risk area surrounding the Slight was expanded a bit northward but was at least comparable with previous outlooks. ....Southwest... There is a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall over portions of the Southwest US as a deep layered upper low moves very slowly eastward. Between precipitable water values of 0.5 to 0.75 inches and cold temperatures aloft helping to create steep low/mid level lapse rates...another round of scattered to numerous showers and thunderstorms should develop again with isolated downpours and locally heavy rainfall amounts today. Bann Day 2 Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025 ....THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY... 20z Update: Main adjustment was a southward shift of the MDT risk over eastern TX into the lower MS Valley based on trends seen in the 12z HREF and REFS. Highest 3" EAS probabilities (a smoothed point probability) stretch from east TX into much of LA, with 5" neighborhood probabilities getting into the 30-70% range. Thus seems likely that a swath of 3-5" of rainfall will occur, with localized totals over 6". 8" neighborhood probabilities drop to 20% or less, with the forward progression potentially limiting the exceedance of 8" and keeping this from being a High risk type of event. Nonetheless, even with a progressive system convection will be organized and widespread enough to result in significant=20 rainfall totals, especially given what should be a very efficient=20 environment for high rates. Numerous instances of flash flooding=20 are expected, some of which could be locally significant in nature, especially if these higher totals end up over a more sensitive=20 urban area. Chenard ....Previous Discussion... ....Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range... The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this update as global models get a better handle on instability and part of the event begins to be covered by high resolution CAMs. Heaviest rainfall and associated risk of flash flooding should be tied to deeper convection that forms and moves from parts of eastern Texas across central and northern Louisiana/far southern Arkansas into parts of Mississippi. 05/00Z guidance continued to depict amounts of 2 to 4 inches in the area with embedded amounts greater than 6 inches. Convection should start out at roughly a southwest to northeast orientation but become realigned more west to east Tuesday night. This increases the potential for repeating storms and training of cells. On the northern side of the complex of storms will allow for continued lighter rains in northern areas that were hard hit earlier in the evening, which will continue or worsen ongoing flash flooding as a result of the earlier storms. Should there be significant increases with future runs, that are expected to be more concentrated, then it's not completely out of the question that a targeted High Risk may be needed with future updates. Even though the heaviest rains will be associated with the moderate Risk area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a good amount of that moisture and instability will be drawn northwestward ahead of a strong shortwave trough associated with the slow-moving upper level low over the 4 Corners region with some of the heavier rainfall amounts moving over areas hard hit with prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and the Panhandles. ....Northeast... A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation of periods of rain from today. Instability is far from impressive, but it will still be enough to allow for convective showers and maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move north up the coast and into New England but model QPF remained in check given the progressive nature of the forcing. Bann Day 3 Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025 ....THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE GULF COAST... 20z Update: Only minimal changes to the inherited Slight risk over southeast TX into LA. The environment remains conducive for potential training convection early Wednesday, but some question whether this activity ends up just offshore or stays onshore. Our latest WPC deterministic QPF would support a MDT risk over LA...however several pieces of guidance are trending towards a more offshore solution by this time...including the AIFS and the 12z RRFS. Given this uncertainty we will leave the risk at a Slight level for now. Either way these areas of coastal TX into LA have a flash flood=20 risk...just a question as to whether the main risk is late on day 2 or on day 3. Future shifts will be able to continue to fine tune=20 these timing details. Chenard ....Previous Discussion... Locally heavy rainfall looks to be lingering along portions of the Gulf coast and Upper Texas coast. Most of the rainfall should be along and south of a cold front left behind by the system that brought heavy to excessive rainfall to the area on Tuesday. Even after the cold passes south over the waters of the Gulf...broad isentropic upglide from broad southwesterly flow should keep at least as risk of rain. However...the 00Z suite of guidance suggested that the convection may be more widely scattered and more offshore than shown by the 01Z and 05Z NBM and may end. Later outlooks will keep an eye on whether this trend continues. 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