Subj : your external editor test of utf-8
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Wed Apr 23 2014 00:24:11

Hello Maurice,

On Monday April 21 2014 20:14, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> It is a text editor, so you have to apply it to some "text".

 MK> Yes including utf-8 characters such as the Euro symbol.  I can also
 MK> shell out commands and have the output redirected into a message such
 MK> as this command which should result in the Euro symbol being inserted
 MK> below;

 MK> command:  r ! echo -e "\u20ac"

 MK> €

 MK> Neat eh!

Hmmm.. Frankly I do not see how it beats just pushing Right Alt 5. €


 MK> A better example might be the output of 'lscpu' which will
 MK> post the specs of the machine I am typing this reply on;

All very nice, but there are dozens of ways to post output of a particular utility in a Fidonet message. How about this:

root@OpenWrt:~# help Built-in commands:
------------------
        . : [ [[ alias bg break cd chdir command continue echo eval exec         exit export false fg getopts hash help jobs kill let local printf         pwd read readonly return set shift source test times trap true         type ulimit umask unalias unset wait

root@OpenWrt:~#

Just copy and paste will do it...

 MvdV>> but there is no need for everyone to do that is there?

 MK> Nope.  However I enjoy working with tools that I am comfortable with
 MK> and that are extremely powerful.  I have yet to find anything
 MK> comparible in fidonet.  Have you?

You are comparing apples and fish if not apples and bandirsnatch. Linux is an operating system, Fidonet is an amateur network. There is a lot more to linux than just Fidonet and there is a lot more to Fidonetthan just Linux. There is a small overlap. You just pointed it out. So have I ever seen something like that in Fideonet? Yes, you just pointed it out.

 MK> BTW the msg scanner part shows your message as: text/plain; charset=utf-8

So?

 MK> I don't see a BOM in this one but even if there was one the result
 MK> will be the same.  However 'iconv' will fail unless the BOM is stipped
 MK> beforehand.  Just thought you might want to know.

"0xEF,0xBB,0xBF" is a well formed UTF-8 byte sequence. That the utility of your choice can not gracefully deal with it is not my problem.   


Cheers, Michiel

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