Subj : old dutch To : Maurice Kinal From : Kees van Eeten Date : Mon Nov 28 2016 13:44:44 Hello Maurice! 28 Nov 16 11:52, you wrote to me: MK> Understood. Personally I have been using bash scripts with assorted other MK> tools (sed, grep, fold) which are far more lean and mean than python, or MK> perl for that matter, which also supports utf-8 and has been in production MK> far longer than python. So far all I've required perl for is it's pack MK> function for converting pkt and msg headers to binary for nodes that MK> subscribe to that mode of operations for messaging. Internally everything MK> messaging here is utf-8 text based and has been since I first started MK> focussing on making utf-8 work for me locally. The same could easily be MK> done with python but to be honest I've been hoping to get rid of perl and MK> NOT replace it with something else just as overbloated and essentially MK> unwanted. I can't see myself using it ever, nevermind for fidonet capable MK> utf-8 messaging. What for? I agree with you, that much can be done with Bash and the other Unix shell tools. They are my preferred tools for any idea I get as well. MK> Since I first encountered python AGES ago I have never found anything MK> appealing about it that I can't achieve with far less resources. Howver I MK> can see it's appeal to MS type hackers given their chosen platform which MK> is most definetly developmentally crippled. Unfortunetly I see that same MK> attitude spreading to linux via lame distributions such as Ubuntu. MK> :::sigh::: I have seen you relating Python to MS type users before. However if I look into the history and use of Python and where Guido van Rossum started the development of the language, I do not see the relation. Kees --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5 * Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4) .