Subj : Re: Coal miners ask Obama to stop =?UTF-8?B?77+9YWJzb2x1dGUgbGll?= To : All From : whislting@grave.yd Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:20:08 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september ..org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-septemb er.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: private sector's doing 'fine' Newsgroups: az.politics,dfw.politics,ca.politics,austin.politics,misc.survivalism,guns.talk ..politics Subject: Re: Coal miners ask Obama to stop =?UTF-8?B?77+9YWJzb2x1dGUgbGll?= =?UTF-8?B?c++/vQ==?= Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:08:08 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 383 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="fbac693277d79c3d0c8ca67940f72520"; logging-data="13663"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+MFfgrTmqnIAGmZFOZQsrThD4tTu6dRD0=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.9) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/10.0.9 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:VJQsJZNR/I75Cqv24gYBniBlJQk= Xref: news.eternal-september.org az.politics:2600 dfw.politics:322 ca.politics:6208 austin.politics:68 misc.survivalism:23317 On 10/19/2012 6:34 AM, MikeHall@outlook.cam wrote: > Nope. Some disgruntled coal miner writes a letter and signs a number > of names to it Let's remind folks what a total LUSER you are.. Here's the real ?@qmail.not in all his self-righteous, senile, slobbering self-pity: If I did go back to work, there is no way I could earn enough to pay for health care. My wife had a serious bout with cancer and the costs were over $180,000. I was operated on last year with a cost of $47,000. There is no way I could earn that kind of money and that's why we started Medicare/Medicaid in the first place. FDR was right with the start of SS & LBJ was right with Medicare. It may not be what you want, but there are too many people who need it. I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. While this may be a noble endeavor, time often restricts what we can continue to do. I do not spend nearly as much time on usenet as you do. I simply don't have that kind of free time. <1msl28l407mr7i005c00gu5mbcc8dorkg6@4ax.com> Right now Medicare payments are being cut and my supplement insurance is picking up the difference. I am therefore paying more for my supplemental insurance. If I have pay more to keep the system solvent, I am willing to as long as I can afford it. Some measure should be in place for those who can't. Right now we had or used to have Medicaid. Many doctors/hospitals are no longer accepting Medicaid. Is Medicare next? Obama is not a failure at anything yet but those who insist he is because he wouldn't do things they way they want him to, well, they have failed as Americans and shouldn't even live in my country. The ecomony is where it is because of a nation that doesn't give a dam about anyone else but itself and employers who have an insatiable desire for all the money, all of it. Did it ever dawn on you that if we let them get away with it, the rest of us won't have any? The incompetent ass is you. <65cl38lgun94nmj5kc2jn86cmdqn8h3b38@4ax.com> The Phony Kernel is just about gone. That is the only point. IF he was in nam it was as one of the vietcong. Your face is like my ass. I don't have to look at either. I'd just settle to see scum like you out of my country. You Anti-Americans don't deserve to live here. <428h489p23tv9nds7ouub7rg1fpuorda7f@4ax.com> For the safety of the public who lives in your area, I'll revise the suggestion, go outside and shoot into the ground. Don't miss your foot now. Wait for the police to come. If they don't come in a few minutes do it again. Oh, and wear your T-Shirt with Target's logo on the front and the Second Amendment on the back. Then see how long you get to keep your gun. after I wake up from my nap I'll have the time to read your lengthy rant......snip! Hahha, you are mentally degranged. I am far from tortured, idiot. <5d9u48138slth1gbc7vd2r0m4asdohfmv1@4ax.com> More customers will never drive costs down, only up. Since I've been using Medicare, doctors are doing their best to drain it from as many sources as they can. I am diabetic. A few years ago, I was seeing my doctor once a year. I saw my labs twice a year. If there was something wrong in mid-year the doctor called me in or changed my meds without ever seeing me. My control is still good. The ADA says I should target to be below 7.0 AIC. I have been consistently between 7.0 and 6.0. No change but BUT, today I see my doctor 8 times a year and the lab 4 times a year, every 3 months instead of 6. The ADA says I should be between 120-130 for my Blood Sugar. I average below 120 yet one of my health care professionals told us we need to be between 65 and 99. Why the low numbers? It's called "Marketting". I can't allow myself to get below 80 or I become hyper-glycemic. Since we are talking about a serious health issue, let me add: I have been diabetic since 2005. The only change in my blood sugar took place when 3 doctors tried to change my meds 3 different times when all was going well. The changes didn't work and I had to double up on meds to get back under control. So the changes were not for me, they were for my doctor. I have read almost everything I could get my hands on about diabetes. I learned that what works for me may not work for you or for anyone else. One has to play with things a little to get a system down and stick with it unless a change occurs that you didn't cause. I use Splenda for sweetener. Works just fine. I know two people who cannot use it. It raises their blood sugar. I can suggest one thing I did. A doctor once took me off Glipicide and put me on Atcos which is being advertised by the legal guys as a drug with possible side affects causing bladder cancer. I quit the Atcos. I then asked my doctor a serious question. First telling him that I am not the patient with 4 million dollars under my mattress. I don't have enough to take care of all my meds. SO....which ones should I stop taking that will extend my life as long as possible and give me the most time to get my affairs in order since I am going to die? I guess that shocked his ass because he came up with all sorts of generic answers to my problem. I also did go off some of the drugs. Right now I battle (if you can call it that) bladder infections. So far I have had two days in the hospital, where it took two days to drip 2 bags of saline solution into me (I was dehydrated). I had this exact same thing two years ago in another hospital and they gave me 3 bags and let me go home that same day. I wasn't told to stay. Here, they didn't want me to leave. In fact one of their Chinese nurses told me I had e-coli. I didn't realize it at the time but they never took any stool specimens. e-coli does not show up in the bladder according to what I read. This China nurse spoke very bad engish. SO now they do come here to work, build bridges and help themselves to my tax money. I am going through test after test right now to find out why I had two bouts with bladder infections. Right in the book on diabetes, that is the cause and they can't cure diabetes or can they? With bridge replacements, the Chinese are doing that right now and the idiots blamed that on Obama. Well, he didn't do that. And I've carried on long enough. I am not Obama's friend but I am not his enemy as either position would not serve any purpose whatsoever. If we have any enemy it is the congress, not the president regardless of who he turns out to be. I know, I know the diehard wingnut has to disagree with me but that's Ok. I disagree with them. Regards and good luck to anyone with diabetes. I am no longer concerned with peaks. Now it's the valleys. Sometimes I get too low and I can tell, I get the shakes. For that I keep Oatmeal Raisin Cookies on hand. Two will do the trick. If I get too low and need a quick flush, I drink a glass of orange juice. Also have to add when I became diabetic, I am over 6 feet tall and weighed in at 278. I now weigh 238 and I gain more control of the diabetes as I lose. I also take the dog out every evening. I walk 1 mile. If I take my blood sugar reading before and after the walk, I lose 30 points by walking the mile. One other thing. I was taking Lovastastin for Cholesterol. My doc sent me an email saying he was changing that to Simvastatin. That one change 40 mg to 40 mg resulted in an average lowering of my blood sugar of 30 points. One other thing and I wouldn't take too much stock in this, in fact I am afraid to try it. A penpal in Austria became an MD. I told him my numbers and he said, "American doctors must be getting a payback for the medicines they prescribe. Your Cholesterol is not that high for a man your age. IF you stop the cholesterol meds, you may find out that your diabetes goes away. Yeah, I'm afraid but I have to add this. I went on Lovastatin first. A year later he diagnosed me as being in Adult Diabetes. Did it? I don't know and if Medicare goes the way it seems to be going, (away) I may have to control my diabetes with diet and exercize. I'll go vegan. It's either that or move to Yuma where the Mexican border is reasonably safe and I can jump across for doctor and Rx. There is an entire town in Arizona called Green Valley. The average age there is 76 years old. They are 20 minutes from the border so I can guess why they live there. It's hot and no trees. I have a set of diabetic inserts. They do work and I still have the same ones prescribed to me 5 years ago. The Diabetic shoes are more expensive and I'm told only are supposed to last 6 months. I only use my inserts with dress shoes. For around the house I use sandals with Dr. Sholls and other inserts in them. I use them even if I go out for a short shopping trip, see a movie or go out to dinner. I have 4 pairs of these slippers/sandals and even walk my mile each night with them. I switch sandals during the day I may use all 4 of them. My feet are bad but not getting any worse. And last, everyone is different. I had to experiment and see what worked. I was using One-Touch tabs and my insurance was paying for them. I used a lot of them. Now that I am under control, I buy "Reli-On" tabs. I did check them against One-Touch. The readings were the same. I buy what I can afford and everyone is different. Good luck with your diabetes. The best health care I had in the last 15 years was by Kaiser Permanente where doctors work directly for the company. I never met one who was unhappy working for Kaiser. I don't drink coffee, so I need no sweetener, but my body makes insulin at a slow rate no matter how much medicine I take, so eating less per meal is the answer as long as the A1c is below 7.0. I have never missed a vote and almost always vote against the encumbant. Not much else one vote can do. I do not do well with potatoes. I seem to do better with rice. I actually like the fast dinners, I like Marie Callendar best. <0b6158h58tm9phdr5qvtrup4t4neepi1hi@4ax.com> Not part of this issue. The country recoved from the war eventually. We have yet to stop this war after 22 years. That is the issue you can't spin off in one of your wild directions. Maybe you could try respecting your president and if you are so against him, vote with your pen and not your mouth. You only know what one party makes up about him. Do you even think that they will approve of any democrat? You should expect their BS and take it with a grain of salt. As you look at Obama's actions, try to understand why. You won't have to look far, look at George W Bush. They don't like blaming him but then they don't like blaming themselves for anything. Both parties spend money like it was theirs to do whatever they want to do with it. They spend it differently. Democrats would see it go to people while republicans want to go to businesses (that they are invested in) Not so difficult to understand. But since that means I have to pay their taxs so they won't have to, I'm going to fight them here and in the trenches. This has been an increasing problem. I was dumped by a doctor. He billed my insurance didn't like what they paid him so he tried to bill me for the difference. When I refused (Insurance company told me to) I was unable to get in touch with him for an appointment or otherwise. He even ordered some blood workup that was incomplete. He did that 3 times. When I came home one day from first seeing him, my neighbor asked how it went. I told her who the doctor was and she said, "I thought he was dead." A lot older than me he was. He was the doctor who changed my Glipicide over to Atcos which is being advertised by lawyers who sue for bladder cancer. I know several people who too lump sums and regretted doing so. I have two private pensions and they have both paid me more than I put into them. In December I will be retired 5 years. Living the life of an RV'er is not such a bad way to go. We have been traveling a lot and all along the routes we see permanent RV'ers hooked up to the sites. I thought about doing that and if not for a wife that insists on a nest somewhere, I would be full time Rv'ing myself. There are clubs where you can join, pay the fees and even with the fees spend less than $10 a night for a spot to park, water, sewer, trash, Cable TV as well as Internet. The only extra is electicity. There is no cheaper way to live. I am as guilty, especially during the holidays. Chocolate covered cherries, holiday cookies which were shortbread, a dab of fudge and a cherry or walnut cut in half. I did grow up in a home that did not buy convenience foods. My mother had diabetes and now I have it as well. In most other points in our party's history, Obama would fit in well as a Republican. <1ia6585jd3h8kqdo80v188ibbj12n9go1m@4ax.com> The human race has infected this planet as it is in our nature to destroy ourselves. <83s7589sm0451jq423jf1sl6vfgf42g9ca@4ax.com> You're still posting with a dirty sock so you can bet your in most kill files. You don't deserve to live in this country, and you are a traitor to the American way of life. You know that wasn't very funny when you sent out information about your own departure. Do you know what we spend on the party!!!!!! Just in time to find out you were still alive. Dam you're mean. <4l895810rhao62c3hmabtn17ig446efdaa@4ax.com> Fair? Hahah. You should be David Letterman's show with that kind of bullshit. You make up the script as you go along . Your insane, completely bonkers. <9uo958d99bd65i0n71t83r0m0meef5hs6q@4ax.com> Sooneror later you only drown in your own puke all by yourself anyway. Read the last sentence below. Read it 14 times. You are young but your mind hasn't formed yet and it takes repetition to get the data to sink in. And here I thought we just went through this? Must be my senility, so once again, No, I don't even try to keep up with a teenager. I'm too old for that. <7s1a58pps17bkkijq10oorordn7rb9mu5l@4ax.com> Outlast you at what? At least I have a brain. The only sick person here is you. Did you happen to have sex with a monkey? Get HIV? You have the ramblings of an addict. What are you on? I just received my Medicare RX booklet and the prices did go up. Holy cow. Next year I get to pay ...60¢ more a month. Good Grief, that's like $7.20 a year. Oh, how will we survive under ObamaCare? Oh, woe is me. Hahahaha. I don’t care if someone doesn’t like the President but I do care if the reason is lie! <78ha58d3da3sviprbkipbu2tppncu8enae@4ax.com> a post or two before you almost sounded like you were in a reasonable discussion. Now you sound like yourself, an asshole. In the meantime, have a good evening. I am just so old I need to go to bed. You are taking your "tour" by yourself. It is time to stop now. You are an idiot and a liar and impossible to hold a conversation with people like you. You'll call this a debate when it clearly is not and then call yourself the winner regardless of how it comes out. Caught in a lie you make up a new one. Typical right wing. There is a clinical diagnosis. You won't see things the way average people see them. You are in own little world occasionally dragging someone else in there with you. Posting with you is like an argument in Kindergarten Yawwwwn Hooo weee....get the Glipicide and Dr. Scholls sandals out....we got a live one here gang...for now anyway... --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .