Subj : .?lo files disappearing error 11
To   : deon
From : Digital Man
Date : Mon Jun 02 2025 14:45:38

  Re: .?lo files disappearing error 11
  By: deon to Digital Man on Mon Jun 02 2025 05:57 pm

 > Howdy,
 >
 > I've just discovered something weird, that has been happening for a month or
 > two. Probably since I moved from x86_64 to aarch64.
 >
 > When outbound FTN mail is created, sbbsecho is correctly placing the .?lo
 > file in the zone oubound dir, and triggering binkit to send it.
 >
 > It seems when binkit calls the remote, when it goes to open the .?lo file to
 > see what to send, its gone. I can re-produce this pretty easily, its
 > happening for all my FTN networks.
 >
 > As a consequence, no mail gets sent.
 >
 > Here is an except from syslog:
 >
 > Jun 02 15:42:47 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt FIDOOUT Running native timed
 > event: /opt/sbbs/exec/sbbsecho -ni
 > Jun 02 15:42:49 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt FIDOOUT Timed event:
 > '/opt/sbbs/exec/sbbsecho -ni' returned 0
 > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BBS Events Semaphore signaled
 > for Timed Event: BINKOUT
 > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Running native timed
 > event: ?binkit
 > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked
 > with options:
 > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout
 > for 12:1/1@dovenet, file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.00c/00010001.dlo
 > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to
 > 12:1/1@dovenet started
 > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Connecting to
 > 12:1/1@dovenet at clrghouz.bbs.dege.au:24554
 > Jun 02 15:43:00 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Will encrypt session.
 > Jun 02 15:43:00 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Authentication
 > successful: secure
 > Jun 02 15:43:28 ? local1.err synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Error 11 opening FLO
 > file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.00c/00010001.dlo
 > Jun 02 15:43:31 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Timed event:
 > '?binkit' returned 0
 >
 > I just rebuilt sbbs today, as my last build was about a month or two old -
 > still the same.
 >
 > Why the error 11, and what would cause the file to disappear?

/usr/include/asm-generic/errno-base.h:#define   EAGAIN          11      /* Try again */

I'm guessing that means the file was opened for exclusive access or the file system was doing something with the file. It's not saying the file "is gone".

 > If I create the .?lo manually, and send it interactively with jsexec binkit
 > -l ... , the file doesnt disappear (until the mail is sent), and the mail
 > gets transfered correctly.
 >
 > I think this is related to me switching to aarch64. I'm using the same
 > config, and the same build process as I have always used.

It sounds like BinkIt should peform an open-retry when getting that specific open error. Submit an issue at gitlab.synchro.net for someone to follow-up on this?
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