Subj : Changing Times... 1A. To : Richard Webb From : Ardith Hinton Date : Fri Mar 02 2018 02:36:56 Hi, Richard! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton: RW> Sometimes the teachers can be the best advocates for RW> the students, but sometimes not, which is why we have RW> such programs here in the states as the individualized RW> education plan, We have IEP's here too. As a teacher, I wrote some of them.... ;-) RW> which is supposed to be developed with professionals *and* RW> parents, but first the parents often have to be educated, RW> both to understand options and possible outcomes. Yes. The professionals often need to be educated too, however. I'm reminded here of Nora's kindergarten teacher... a woman with whom all three of us got along famously. When she told Dallas & me "I don't know anything about [various medical issues pertaining to Nora]" I chuckled & replied "I know that stuff. You're the expert in teaching kindergarten. So... we'll put our heads together!" As a former teacher & as a parent, I expect to work on a collegial basis with professionals. AFAIC the real gems actually appreciate that. :-)) RW> Usually CNIB and other such agencies have to go by a legal RW> definition of blindness, often here in the states defined RW> as 20/200 in the better eye with correction, That's what I was taught at university many years ago. Although the textbook is quite outdated now, I think these numbers are still valid.... :-) RW> or a certain field of vision, can't recall what those RW> criteria are. Tunnel vision, yeah. I don't recall the details either.... :-) AH> A person who can see well enough to read large print AH> and/or who is satisfied with being read to by synthesized AH> voices may not feel motivated to learn Braille, however AH> ... from that standpoint you were fortunate in some ways. AH> At the blind school you probably didn't have a choice & AH> your classmates were learning it too. ;-) RW> YEs, but back then there were the dreaded "talking books" RW> on record, or reels of tape. I remember those. I used them on occasion when I wanted my students to hear how English was pronounced a millenium ago. But in my experience kids generally prefer to have some opportunity to interact with the reader.... :-) RW> Also, and maybe you don't want to get me started on RW> this one, but the "professionals in the field" had RW> this grand experiment called "sightsaving" going on, RW> which they started after WW II when the system was RW> receiving a large influx of blind children thanks to RW> the babies blinded by incubators, Hmm. I was dimly aware of the theory as one of those 1950's "use it or lose it" ideas which probably did more harm than good to me & others I know but I hadn't yet connected the dots. The timing is interesting... [wry grin]. RW> or Retrolentral fibroplasia (spelling) No problem... you added one letter to a suffix, that's all. My best girl friend in high school had twin brothers with this condition. Retrolental fibroplasia is the abnormal proliferation of fibrous tissue behind the lens of the eye... most common when incubators were first used & the ideal quantity of oxygen was yet to be determined. I didn't realize the "sightsaving" stuff had been going on for such a long time, however. One of my friend's brothers, who AFAIK was totally blind, went to the school for the blind when there was still such a thing here. I do remember the panic my older colleagues expressed when they were required to teach kids with special needs. They'd been trained in a lockstep era where the only alternatives were to shape up or ship out... where left-handedness, introversion etc. were regarded as perversities which must be eliminated... and thus the learning curve in many cases was fairly steep. :-) --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716) .