Subj : Re: Pi4 to Pi5 migration To : Ahem A Rivet's Shot From : bp@www.zefox.net Date : Tue Jun 18 2024 04:05:01 Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:37 -0000 (UTC) > wrote: > >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >> > On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:42:41 -0000 (UTC) > >> > More like five years, the 80386 came out in 1987. There were >> > BSD ports available by 1993 and the first Linux release was in 1991. >> > However that's just open source - There were commercial XENIX and >> > Interactive ports earlier - even for the 80286. >> >> We're comparing different endpoints. I started with 386BSD and it >> could be made to install and run by about 1992, but that alone was >> an accomplishment for a non-expert like me. It took a few more > > Indeed it was - did you have the patch kit ? Not to begin with, the patch kit came later. Can't remember exactly when I started with 386BSD. The Byte issues had gone to the bindery, so it was at least six months after publication. > >> years to become _usable_ by non-experts, in the form of FreeBSD. > > Nope FreeBSD 1.0 came out in November 1993 - I was using 1.1.5.1 to > run a Dublin based ISP in 1994. We gave Jordan Hubbard a free account when > we discovered he was visiting Ireland and he gave us a stack of 1.1 discs. > He got the better deal :) > IIRC 1.1.5.1 worked pretty well, as the last encumbered version. Am I confused? The early un-encumbered versions were somewhat rough. [encumbered meaning "contains AT&T code"] >> Maybe I'm off a little on the dates (I learned of 386BSD about a >> year after the Byte Magazine series by Jolitz) but then it was >> still very fiddly. By about 1997-8 I was using FreeBSD for email. > > That would be late 2.2 or early 3.0 days - 3.0 was the release that > included APM support for laptops, one of the few occasions I ran -current. 3.0 rings a bell. Thanks for writing, bob prohaska --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3) .