Subj : Re: RasPIan is firmware now? To : yeti From : mm0fmf Date : Sat Nov 30 2024 13:14:34 On 30/11/2024 10:50, yeti wrote: > What is RasPIan doing differently now? I don't know what they are doing but it fuc^W failed badly when I did it. I have done numerous x86 in situ Debian upgrades on laptops, desktops and VMs in data centres. All have been upgraded from Debian 9 to 10, then 11 and then 12 as new versions become available. Follow the guide on the Debian website and it just works. But 11 to 12 on a Pi Zero W really mucked up. Sure I ended up with something that would say it was Debian 12 and seemed to work. But after a while I noticed the networking was a mixture of NetworkMangler and old scripts that was an unbelievable spaghetti of mixed stuff. Also whatever repos it was using, it didn't do kernel updates. And yes, I checked the repos were correct in /etc/apt. I had successfully upgraded in place from 10 to 11 on the same Pi Zero W before. But 11 to 12 was a disaster. No surprises a clean install and applying my changes brought me a v12 that works and isn't a mixture of 11 and 12. I don't have enough minutes left on Earth to worry why and find out what went wrong. Next time I will back up the 12 image + changes and updates and try in situ update to see if 12>13 works. If it looks slightly iffy I'll reinstall again. And I have the backup image should I ever need to go back. And I know I'm not the only person who found in situ update to 12 failed. --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3) .