Subj : Re: Dual wifi connections in Bookworm To : Michael Schwingen From : The Natural Philosopher Date : Fri Nov 29 2024 13:27:40 On 29/11/2024 13:07, Michael Schwingen wrote: > On 2024-11-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> No, as far as the wireless channel and the access point are concerned, >>> these are two separate clients. That they are attached to the same host >>> does not matter, they will cooperate / share airtime. >> >> Regardless of how you look at it, they are colliding with each other. > > Yes, but CSMA/CA reduces that to a point where it works fine unless the > channel is heavily loaded. > >> Having two interfaces on the same channel cannot magically double its >> bandwidth. > > I never said that - of course they share the bandwidth, just like two > separate clients do. Noone installs one separate access point for every > device they use (not only because you would run out of free channels quite > quick, even with 5/6GHz) - multiple devices connected to a single AP is a > standard, supported scenario. Even when one client does heavy up/downloads, > the others will notice a slowdown, but not the packet loss problems that > were the start of this thread. > >> And because both transmitters are so close to each other, that >> aggravates the losses from frame collisions. > > How? Being close to each other, they can easily "see" when the channel is > busy and will not step over each other's foot. Contrary, widely spaced clients > lead to the "hidden station" problem where two stations each "see" the > access point, but not each other, and start to transmit at the same time. > > cu > Michael The point being wifi is as shit as coaxial ethernet was, and should be avoided if at all possible -- β€œIt is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.” ― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3) .