Subj : Re: Due Process
To   : RUG RAT
From : Dumas Walker
Date : Mon Jun 16 2025 09:26:00

> IJ> They are getting due process...  The court they go through in an
> IJ> Immigration court and they see an Immigration Judge.

> He went in front of a judge in 2019.  The judge ruled to "Withold removal"!

> ICE ignored this order and deported him anyway..  How is this due process?!

It is a clever way to claim that the defendent got their due process while
the current authorities totally disregard the results of that due process.

It is also a fantasy-land response that ignores that allowing authorities
to ignore due process, court orders, etc., means that it can also happen to
any of us... lefty, MAGA, moderate, Democrat, Republican, etc... at any
time.

Over time you will realize there are a lot of folks on fidonet that seems
to understand the danger of setting bad legal precident, but only so long
as it doesn't apply to something that someone they voted for is trying to
do.

If you try to apply it to "their" leader, they either cannot or refuse to
comprehend the potential fallout.

As an aside, those same folks will also have grave comprehension issues
when it comes to understanding why parts of the Constitution are worded to
protect "people" while others are specific to "citizens."  To them,
"people" only are people if they are "citizens."

For example, as a citizen, it will never occur to them that they might one day
need to depend on their right to due process in order to be able to prove
they are a citizen.  They believe their word will protect them.

That belief, of course, will change should the person they voted for not be
the one that takes office.  Then they will spend the next 4 or so years
contradicting whatever they said/claimed during the previous 4 or so years.


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