Subj : 104% import duty for Chin To : Don Vally From : Ron L. Date : Sat Apr 12 2025 14:56:25 -=> Don Vally wrote to MIKE POWELL <=- MP> There is a problem with the logic, though. Having American workers MP> make things because too costly, which is why we don't do it any more. DV> We don't do it anymore because we buy all of our stuff from China. We don't do it because: 1. The Elitists in gov't put too many regulations on businesses, raising the costs of their products to the point that they cannot compete. 2. Allowing countries like China to dump their products on our markets but not allowing us to sell there. DV> So since we can't make anything cheaply, we should just give up and let DV> the slave labor trade make it for us and send all of our dollars DV> overseas? We can make things cheaply. If the gov't will get out of the way and let companies change to make those products cheaper. DV> So you are comparing the United States with Nazi Germany from 1940? Not DV> too sure that's completely relevant in these days and times. Well the Dems in the 1930's and 1940's DID have a love relationship with Nazis and Italian fascism. MP> The last time the US decided to tariff the hell out of everyone, in an MP> apparent attempt to isolate itself, it also didn't end well. DV> And your examples? He is correct. But those tariffs weren't used as leverage like Trump. You see how quickly he takes them off for trading partners who negotiate (note: not capitulate). China is pissed because: 1. Their economy has been poor for a while now. 2. Their economy is based on manufacturing cheap stuff and selling it to us. 3. The 125% tariff effectively prohibits them from selling much in the U.S. All of this leads to the Chinese economy collapsing soon. .... Captain we're at 1700 CPS. The UARTs canna take much more ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32) * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (1:120/616) .