Subj : Re: Happy Voting
To   : Alan Ianson
From : jimmylogan
Date : Fri Nov 08 2024 06:07:32

-=> Alan Ianson wrote to jimmylogan <=-



 >> Somebody choosing not to have a baby at this time is also OK.

 >> If someone doesn't have the wherewithal to have a child it might be
 >> better that they don't.

 > Choosing not to have a baby by killing the baby?

 AI> No killing has happened.

I think our definition of 'killing' is different. I understand
it to be ending a life.

 > Does that include after it is born too?

 AI> That would be murder, that is not happening is it?

 > So it's better for a child to be dead than to be born into a life
 > where their parents don't want it?

 AI> Nobody in America is aking that argument, why do you?

 > Does the same go for one that is already born?

 AI> Of course not. That isn't happening and I don't understand why you
 AI> bring it up.

 > Better to throw it in a dumpster than give it a chance at life?

 AI> Same response. Why do you bring that up?

Because I'm asking what the difference is between a baby BEFORE it
is born and a baby AFTER it is born. If it is simply LOCATION, then
why is it okay on one hand and wrong on the other?

I'm trying to point out that it is LIFE in both cases. If you are 
for LIFE and defending children (which you haven't said you are
for or against - only pointed out that it is 'murder' - you didn't
say if you were okay with it) then why not in all locations?

 > Serious questions - I'd love to hear your perspective.

 AI> Abortion is health care. Today in America women who need health care
 AI> are turned away from hospitals because doctors are afraid they will be
 AI> sued/jailed for giving a woman the care she needs.

Women "NEED" abortions. That's the part I can't get behind. A woman
"NEEDS" to kill her unborn child. I don't understand how that has 
become the norm in this country.

 AI> These women I bring up had a miscarriage, not an abortion. They wanted
 AI> their baby and were carrying it to term. After the miscarriage (or an
 AI> abortion) a women may need a D&C to remove any remaining material in
 AI> their body.

 AI> A D&C is a fairly simple and common proceedure but it is a life saver
 AI> for a woman in need. Women in America have died because they couldn't
 AI> get the care they need from their doctor/hospital.

 AI> There a recent cases like this, I am not making this up.

I have heard of ONE case like this - only one - but it is broght up all
the time, even here in Tennessee. I need to reveiw the details but my
understanding is the person didn't die because the doctor was scared
to give a simple procedure (yes, simple - my wife had a D&C after our
first child was lost in a miscarriage in 1990). My understanding was
there were other factors.

The point being, women have miscarriages all the time, sadly, and
medical procedures to take care of them still happen all the time. I've
seen no proof that doctors are 'scared,' just rhetoric about it.






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