Subj : Re: Upstate brainwashees
To   : AARON THOMAS
From : Mike Powell
Date : Tue Oct 01 2024 11:36:00

>  MP> Him bad mouthing and suggesting the GOP vote against the bill was all
>  MP> over the news.  It is not my fault if you don't watch it.

> The news isn't a communications device for the president and congress. I don't
> believe that Trump forced his opinion on anybody. And if he did, then there
> would have to be more to that story, like what violent thing did he threaten t
> do to Mike Johnson if the legislation had passed? "You better listen to me
> boy." lol

When you have supporters like Trump does, you don't have to mention
violence.  All you have to do is label Johnson a RINO for leading a vote
for something you don't like, and then let your supporters figure out what to
do about it.

The more liberal posters here used to claim this or that word or phrase was
a "dog whistle."  While I disagreed with most of what they said, and
disagreed that only Trump uses them, the term "RINO" is most definately one.

>  MP> It didn't legitimize illegal crossings.  It allowed for a cap on
>  MP> crossings at legal border crossings.  The bill would have been a lot
>  MP> better than what we have now and didn't do anything to stop Republicans
>  MP> from passing something even more strict once Trump got into office.

> The way I remember reading it was "a cap on ILLEGAL border crossings."

How do you cap illegal crossings when they don't even seem to know how,
where, or how many are crossing?

>  MP> Seeing how liberal Democrats voted against it because it was "too strict"
>  MP> tells me it was not a bad bill.

> Not bad for us but bad for them, and that's ultimately bad for us too because
> we need a few of their votes.

I suspect these are the more leftist Democrats who would never vote with
Republicans.

OTOH, If you are worried about needing Democrat votes, it might be
a *really good* idea to keep your promise and vote with them on an
*bipartisan* immigration bill that you said you would.

>  MP> Since February, when the bill was killed, every single illegal that has
>  MP> got into the country is equally on the heads of Trump, Johnson, and all
>  MP> of their cronnies as is is on the head of Biden.  It stopped being the
>  MP> "Biden border crisis" at that point.

> I just don't see the Trump pressure.

They promised to vote for it.  Trump got on social media and said it
was a bad bill and they should not do it.  They got scared and didn't vote for
it.


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