Subj : Re: Upstate brainwashees To : Randall Schad From : Aaron Thomas Date : Mon Sep 30 2024 19:38:08 RS> AT> Q: Why did Joe let in more than 20 million migrants without visas? RS> AT> A: Because it will create more house seats that only Democrats can fi RS> RS> I still don't know where that 20 million number comes from. It certainly RS> isn't an accurate representation of the immigrant population. The total RS> immigrant population (all nationalities, including illegals) is RS> somewhere around 47-48 million, and it was 45 million under Trump. RS> That's a net gain of 3 million people over 4 years. I'm talking about undocumented migrants; people without background checks. Not "immigrants." I don't know where the numbers come from either, but they are often reported by the media and they range from 7 to 20 million, while Trump has suggested that Biden may have let in closer to 40 million undocumented migrants. Also, this isn't about an "immigrant population," this is about the number of foreigners who entered the USA without a visa while Biden was president. RS> I did see a Pew research number somewhere that said the total illegal RS> population was something like 11 million. That did not happen in 4 years. I appreciate that but listen to yourself: illegal population? That is ridiculous. Think about it: 1) there hasn't been a census count since years before Biden opened the border 2) even if we did a census count yesterday, how many people are going to report it on paper that they are illegal immigrants? 3) there's no way to accurately measure the number of illegal immigrants. RS> AT> Q: Is Kamala a Democrat, like Joe? RS> AT> A: Yes. RS> RS> Do you also have two arms and two legs, just like Joe? RS> RS> Certainly that's a source of unending consternation. This means: Joe wants the border open, he has the same handlers as Kamala, so therefore Kamala wants the border open too. RS> AT> Q: Does Trump control congress? RS> AT> A: No. RS> RS> Interestingly enough, he did have enough pull to get congress to vote RS> down an immigration bill that both sides liked, seemingly because he RS> needed the immigration platform for his campaign. So maybe that's not as RS> true as we'd like. Mike tried to make that same argument but I guess I'll have to say this: it's been debunked. Ex presidents don't control anything. Trump doesn't control congress. He doesn't have "pull." If ex presidents controlled congress, which they don't, then what would the purpose of having a congress be? RS> AT> Q: If Trump IS controlling congress, what are Democrats doing about i RS> AT> A: Nothing. RS> RS> On THIS point, I'm in 100% agreement. Democrats have done embarrassingly RS> little to solve much of anything in quite a while. It's not just Democrats, there are no useful Republicans either. Not in congress at least. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64) * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201) .