Subj : Re: Trump Rallygoers Go B To : AARON THOMAS From : Mike Powell Date : Fri Sep 27 2024 09:10:00 > MP> I have run into a few Trump voters who were very passionate about him > MP> and, come to find out, they eventually reveal that they were also very > MP> passionate about Obama *at least* before his first term, and maybe even > MP> voted for him twice. One was old enough to have been a Clinton voter in > MP> the 1990s. > I wanted to vote for Obama in 2012 because I really thought he was going to > give me affordable health care in return. Since he lied, that's a reason right > there for me to become disgruntled with Democrats, but by now it's got very > little to do with it at this point. That could be another factor for others, too. I am probably a little cynical my thinking that, platformwise, Obama would have little to offer a potential Trump voter, and vise-versa. There are issues that could be very important and draw a voter to someone they might not otherwise consider. > MP> I suspect these people are drawn to charisma and are looking for a > MP> "leader." I would be concerned that they might be easy prey for someone > MP> running a cult. If it was simply being drawn to a political platform, I > MP> doubt they'd find much in common between Obama and Trump so it wasn't > MP> that. > You're probably right, and I realize that you've been awakened since longer ag > than I have been, and it's natural that you've noticed these consistencies. I am going to take "awakened" here to mean "born" and not "WOKE!" :D > Personally, I like the charisma factor because it helps them win. Trump has th > charisma to win. But if charisma wasn't needed for a win, then I would care > less and they could be as monotone or as boring as they want, as long as they > can get the job done. While boring people are not likely to win (never have been), when I mentioned charisma I was thinking in terms of above and beyond the level that other politicians have. Someone who is seen not only as a potential leader of the country, but as a potential cultural and moral leader also. > That's nutty, but it could happen. I think it makes logical sense for recently > awakened people to strongly reject the left, even in a vicious way. I think it is nutty, too, which luckily means that neither of us are likely to get so swept up by a politician that we wind up in that mental state. > MP> If you want examples of this, look at both of the would-be Trump > MP> assassins. The one in PA was supposedly a former conservative Republican > MP> who decided it was time to start donating to "blue" causes, and then it > MP> was time to shoot Trump. The FL one was supposedly a former Trump > MP> supporter who became disillusioned, may have also started supporting > MP> "blue" causes, and then also decided it might be time to shoot Trump. > When looking at it that way, it seems like a pattern that disgruntled follower > are following, but that sounds too convenient to me. The media and the > government want us to see that pattern so that they can convince us that > they're not the ones trying to kill Trump. I don't think they are trying to kill Trump. That said, I also don't think they are doing much to discourage anyone who might be motivated to do so from doing so. The press seemed to very briefly realize and acknowledge a necessity to tone down the rhetoric right after the first attempt but that does not seem to have continued, especially once Biden dropped out. Tulsi Gabbard cited a poll where supposedly 1/4 of Democrats surveyed stated that they hoped, or would not care, if Trump was assassinated. While I am not sure of her source, it is a little concerning that people might hope that. People who do must not realize, or don't care about, the potential chaos that event could cause. There have been many politicians over the years that I have not liked, including some I may have even hated, but I never found myself wishing that on any of them. Murder is wrong, yes, but I also see where whatever happens next could be even worse than whatever supposed bad that politician was causing. * SLMR 2.1a * Forget 0 to 60. It's 95 to 55 that counts! --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105) .