Subj : Re: Threat to Democracy
To   : ALAN IANSON
From : Mike Powell
Date : Wed Aug 14 2024 09:06:00

> >> >> An impeachment is to remove someone from office.
> >> > No it is not.
> >> Yes it is.
> > You need to brush up.  Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump
> > (twice) were *all* impeached. *None* of them were removed from office.
>
> The purpose of impeachment is to remove someone from office. The senate
> determines the outcome of impeachment.

An impeachment is like an indictment.  Just like you can be indicted but
never found guilty, you can be impeached and not be removed from office.

> > Maybe in Canada it is all one thing, but in the United States, impeachment
> > does not automatically = removal from office.

> I am not saying that impeachment = removal from office.

Yes, you did.  It is above and repeated here:

> >> >> An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

I knew we'd land soon enough on "I didn't say that" once you realized you
were mistaken.

> Impeacment is not a criminal proceeding. Someone may be impeached and removed
> from office or not. If crimes have been committed there may be criminal
> proceedings that are not part of impeachment.

True in the sense that it does not occur in the criminal court system.
However, removal from office does rest on the House's ability to convince
the Senate that criminal acts (treason, bribery, other "high crimes") have
been committed.  The Senate does not have the power to remove someone who
has not committed these criminal acts, even if the house decided to impeach
them.


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