Subj : Threat to Democracy
To   : Alan Ianson
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Wed Aug 14 2024 16:22:21

Hello Alan,

 >>>>> An impeachment is to remove someone from office.

 >>>> No it is not.

 >>> Yes it is.

 >> You need to brush up.  Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump
 >> (twice) were *all* impeached. *None* of them were removed from office.

 AI> The purpose of impeachment is to remove someone from office.

Articles of impeachment are filed in the House of Representatives.
A vote is taken. If the majority votes in favor, the person in question
is impeached. If there is no majority, the motion of impeachment fails.

 AI> The senate determines the outcome of impeachment.

The vote in the House of Representatives determines the outcome
of impeachment. If the motion passes, the individual is impeached.
If the motion fails, the individual is not impeached.

The senate has nothing to do with the matter. If the motion passes
in the House, the individual is impeached. What the Senate does is a
separate matter, as it acts as a "court" to decide whether or not to
remove the individual from office. With the Chief Justice of the
Supreme Court presiding over the "trial" - thus ensuring fairness.

 >> Maybe in Canada it is all one thing, but in the United States, impeachment
 >> does not automatically = removal from office.

 AI> I am not saying that impeachment = removal from office.

It is part of a process.

 >> You *seem* to understand, in other converstations, that Donald Trump was
 >> impeached, and twice at that.  If your definition is correct, he would have
 >> been removed from office.  Since Trump remained in office, your definition
 >> of impeachment is proven not to be correct.

 AI> Impeacment is not a criminal proceeding.

It can be, in cases of treason.

 AI> Someone may be impeached and removed from office or not.

Impeachment is a form of indictment. An accusation. That in and of
itself is not a conviction, or a sentence.

 AI> If crimes have been committed there may be criminal proceedings that are not
 AI> part of impeachment.

Crimes? What crimes? The US Supreme Court has ruled the president
has immunity and can do whatever he wants. In his official capacity.

The very thought of that should make you quake in your Canadian boots.

For Life,
Lee

-- 
The first thing a cult does is claim that everyone else is lying to you.

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