Subj : Re: Trump Team Didn't Que
To   : RON L.
From : Mike Powell
Date : Thu Jan 11 2024 11:33:00

>  > And there are some serious questions as to the validity of those charges an
>  > the mock trials.  Some of this is going through the appeals process now and
>  > some going directly to the SCOTUS.

>  MP> Some of them could be questionable.  Others not as much.

> I think they are going to mainly focus on "does the punishment fit the crime?"
>  Recently a Navy? person was caught giving military secrets to the Chinese and
> got a lesser sentence than most Jan. 6 people.

What was he charged with and found guilty of?  I know who are you are
talking about.  Maybe the Jan 6 people need to use his lawyer instead of
whoever they've been using.

>  > BTW: Ray Epps got only a suspended sentence.  Can you say "fed"?

>  MP> Yes.  ;)  The fact that he is all over videos but it not charged says a
>  MP> lot.

> Oh, he got charged and they just had the trial.  Like I said, he got 1 year,
> suspended sentence.  Oh, "a good talking to".

Which still says "fed."

>  MP> Where did you see that there were 200 of them?

> It was a recent Tucker interview.  The estimate (on the low side) was 200 FBI
> operatives (which could mean agents and/or informants).

And who/what was Tucker's source?  Tucker saying something, without
anything to back it up, holds about as much weight as Madcow doing same --
they are both members of the media who are going to say whatever they
believe their listeners want to hear.

>  MP> If they were working for the government, like the guy who infiltrated
>  MP> the group that was suppposedly after your governor, I am guessing they
>  MP> don't get sentenced.

> I think the only reason that Epps got sentenced was that we have so much video
> of him "fomenting insurrection".

Suspended sentence at that.

>  MP> There were certainly a lot of litteral peaceful protesters there, but
>  MP> there were an awful lot of people who were less than peaceful.

> Without a doubt.  But how many of those less-than-peaceful people were feds.
> And, knowing mob mentality, how many went along because someone else (i.e. the
> fed) did it?  I think there's a bit of an argument for entrapment.

There is, but there is also this:

"From only the attendees who went through security checkpoints at the Ellipse
(approx. 28,000), the Secret Service confiscated hundreds of weapons and
prohibited items.

"About 25,000 additional attendees purposely remained outside the Secret
Service perimeter at the Ellipse and avoided the magnetometers. They formed
into a large crowd that extended to the National Mall and Washington Monument.
Those attendees were not subject to any security screening."

The crowd outside of the perimeter, who were not subject to security
screening, were the ones that started towards the Capitol before Trump's
speech was completed.

>  MP> There
>  MP> are a lot of situations that have been shown that day where I could be
>  MP> convinced that a paid actor (i.e. one of your LARPers) was involved,
>  MP> but I cannot see anyone being paid enough to stand at the door of the
>  MP> house where two federal officers are pointing guns at them while they
>  MP> yell at the officers and at a Texas representative, all while some
>  MP> crazy lady is behind then shouting and pushing, and some other guy
>  MP> nearby is yelling through a megaphone about how the two officers can't
>  MP> shoot us all.

>  MP> LARPers would piss their pants before they'd do that.

> But soooo much of that was staged.  And now were back again to asking what was
> real and what was staged and not having enough information to really know.

While possibly true, we also know for fact that at least one law
enforcement official on scene was not "in the know" and shot someone dead.
So, there again, I would be hard-pressed to believe a LARPer would be
willing to stand their ground and continue to attempt to enter the chambers
while assuming that the two armed officers pointing guns at their faces
were "in on it."

You could not pay me any amount of money to do that and be faking it.
The only way I'd do it is if I really believed in what I was there protesting
about -- in other words, if I was "for real" and not "playing along."


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