Subj : Re: Fixed To : Aaron Thomas From : Ward Dossche Date : Tue Nov 28 2023 17:16:59 AT> So what's the problem with the illegal migrants? Where are they coming AT> from? Which one of the 3 Schengen treaty countries is letting them in? Here's how it works ... you can only enter illegally through a landcrossing or by sea, not by air.. Whatever the case, you are required to register as a refugee in the country of arrival ... meaning on the outside of the EU-area. Sweden has no borders which are outside EU-borders. Only Finland has a border ... with Russia ... and Russia has been ferrying whole planeloads of refugees from the near-Middle East (Russias's a big country) to the Finnish border where they could swamp any border crossing. It's a reprisal for suport to Ukraine. More or less as of this week the crossing opportunity has been limited to 1 (one) border crossing only to stop the exodus via Russia. And, trust me, you would not want to cross that border in the wild ... in wintery conditions. Now there are thousands crossing the Mediterranean Sea arriving mainly in Italy and Spain ... they are illegal but you cannot let them drown. So they will be rescued, they will be distributed over the other EU-countries in a way previously described. At that moment they will enter a program where they will be granted refugee-status or not. If they are accepted, they can settle under some rules, and be definition are not "illegal". If they are refused they will be ordered to return where they came from. They can leave, in an assisted way, out of their own free will, or forced. That in a nutshell is the EU-policy. The thing is that the economy and the means of social-services are stretched beyond the limit by the sheer nmumbers and it becomes a financial problem. There is also a demographical problem as most of these refugees are young men ... They are disturbing the natural male/female balance of certain societies which usually is closely 100/100 to, in certain cases already, 100/117 ... meaning 17% of the male population will not find a female mate. There have been cases of group rape as a result of not being able to play the sex-game, which were prosecuted and the defense was "But in our culture women have no rights, they have to accept this" ... However, Aaron, the illegal immigration experienced by the USA is of a totally different nature than in Europe. AT> And more importantly - how can it be stopped? Some people in my neighbourhood will not like me for saying this, but building some kind of a wall or other physical obstruction is a viable solution ... with hindsight. \%/@rd --- DB4 - 20230201 * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854) .