Subj : Woke, Stupid, and Lazy To : Mike Powell From : Ron L. Date : Sat Nov 11 2023 08:42:22 -=> Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=- MP> There are times when I could agree there is a battle between "upper" MP> management and the worker, But usually that battle is "we want more work out of you for the same pay" and "we want less work for the same pay". But usually when they sit down and talk, both labor and management can reach some common ground where both are happy. The union battles that I've see have been along the lines of "We want professional pay, and professional level benefits, for common labor work and we won't compromise." Kinda hard to reach common ground there. MP> but that is usually because upper management MP> is either incompetent or has already decided they are getting out of MP> whatever business they are in. Incompetent management is always a problem. But as I tell people, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. The union guys I spoke with didn't like that because of the rules that **they** put in place, they would have to take a major cut in benefits to go somewhere else (even in the same company). But that's a sign that things are **really** screwed up. .... When a girl goes bad--men go right after her. ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32) * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (1:120/616) .