Subj : California + the Environm To : ALL From : Mike Powell Date : Sun Oct 01 2023 13:08:00 After visiting California, I can safely say we should not be listening to anyone whose ever been in charge out there when it comes to the environment. (1) Los Angeles could fix their air problems very easily, and without forcing electric cars or limiting travel. If you drive the surface streets out there, just about every city in Los Angeles County (and some in surrounding areas) have their traffic lights timed wrong. If you travel the posted speed limit, on a major throughfare, you will be lucky to make more than two lights in a row. That means a WHOLE lot of time sitting in traffic with your car idling. If you do what I did, and follow another driver with California plates who has figured out that you really need to go 10-15 over in order to make the lights, you can eventually get somewhere AND you are not stuck sitting while your car pollutes the air. Fixing this would go a long way to stopping cars idling in traffic. It would probably also rob them of the potential income from speeding tickets so I doubt they will fix it. (2) Even outside the cities, California is dirty. Out in the desert or up in the mountains NE of the city, the sides of the roads are littered with trash. Even way out in the desert, between Palm Springs and the Colorado River, it is filthy. Up between Palmdale and Red Rock, it is filthy. Heck, even along the sides of Sunset in Beverly Hills, it is filthy. About the only place I visted where #1 was not true was in City of Industry, so someone knows what they are doing when it comes to lights and traffic flow. The only place where #2 didn't seem to be true might have been Glendora. Covina seemed "normal" for an area its size. Everywhere else, in the parks and other "pretty areas," you had to be able to ignore a lot of trash to appreciate what you were looking at. * SLMR 2.1a * "It's so cold in the D - this is hard to dance to..." --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105) .