Subj : Re: You're not paying att
To   : Mike Powell
From : Alan Ianson
Date : Sun Sep 03 2023 20:14:36

>> Those service members were killed in a suicide attack (as you mention), not
>> by Biden.

>> America wanted out of afghanistan for a long time and Biden got it done.

> He got it done poorly,

He got it done, Trump didn't.

> all the while ignoring the advice of several advisors and diplomats who
> warned him that the current plan would lead to violence and the colapse of
> the Afghan government.

I am sure that Biden got advice from many and he made his decision.

> Now, you can try to worm out of that somehow, but the discussion here,
> pre-withdrawl, was that one of Biden's good qualities was that he would
> surround himself with good advisors and he would, unlike Trump, *listen* to
> them.

I am not worming out of anything. Trump surrounded himself with men like Bannon who he pardoned before he left office.

> He sure didn't then, and I half-suspect it was so he could have something
> to blame on Trump.

Trump simply didn't have the courage to get it done.

>> His war on fossil fuels?

>> Surely, you jest?

> Something is driving the cost of gasoline, as well as power, up.  Inflation
> is supposedly down but those commodities continue to rise.  Most would
> question whether or not that is due to the energy policy of the current
> administration.  What is your "theory"?

I have no theory. Everything has a value and a cost to get to market.

How are oil companies doing today. Are they suffering?

>> > What does the Democratic Party believe in? The Democratic Party is
>> > generally associated with more progressive policies. It supports social
>> > and economic equality, favouring greater government intervention in the
>> > economy but opposing government involvement in the private noneconomic
>> > affairs of citizens.

>> Yeah, that's all good.

> Despite your claims, while you may be a member/voter of some Canadian party
> that calls themselves "conservative," that statement there proves you are
> not.

I am not a member/voter of any party. At voting time I vote for the person I believe will be the best person for the job at hand.

> Conservatives don't believe in greater government intervention in
> much of anything.  Granted there are "conservatives" who think the
> government should interfere in the private noneconomic affairs of citizens,
> but a true conservative would not.

A big part of the GOP movement today is the stripping away of women's rights.

The right to privacy and make a decision that is right for her at that time. This leads to all kinds of things that are bad for everyone involved and bad for America generally.

That was done by a gerrymandered supreme court.

> And Gregory got it wrong. Democrats don't support social and economic
> equality (i.e. everyone "created equal" and being presented the same
> opportunities), but instead equity (forcing outcomes to be the same by
> holding those who put in more effort back).

I would hope that equality and equity would be supported by everyone regardless of political leanings.

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