Subj : Re: Good Guy with a Gun To : Dale Shipp From : IB Joe Date : Fri Jul 07 2023 08:23:09 On 07 Jul 2023, Dale Shipp said the following... DS> DS> You present that you have a decent knowledge of the laws with respect to DS> guns, and I am not troubled by people like you who do have that DS> knowledge and intentions. It is the suicidal young male who decides he DS> wants to go out in a blaze of "glory" that I have a problem with -- plus DS> that AR15 semi-automatic weapon of war that he carries. DS> You sound like one of the people you who get their Stand Your Ground knowledge from the media and coffee shoppes. I own a hunting rifle, I've owned this gun for ~25 years or more... https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/bar-mk3-stalker.html Functionally it is the same as an AR15... in that both are semi-automatic... things start to drift apart there... Someone not in their right mind 300 Win Mag for anything other than its intended purpose... Hunting large game. I would not want to use this as a self-defence weapon. This gun and the ammunition it takes are for hunting moose, 1000 pound moose... Though it functions no differently than an AR15... and it looks more like a traditional riffle ... it is the same... Semi-automatic rifle... Here is a picture of a rifle that is chambered in the same round as an AR15. It is also a Semi-automatic so it'll function the same as an AR.... Interesting.... functions the same as an AR but would be considered not a weapon of war... https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/80779 Guns have a purpose, they are a tool.... I own an AR15 mainly because a democrat told me I shouldn't have one... For home defense I prefer to use an AR9... No an AR9 is NOT 6 ARs safer than an AR15... but rather it's chambered in 9mm... same as my hand gun. AR9 rifle is more accurate and easier to use than a handgun... If I were to get an AR for hunting I would buy an AR10... these are chambered in 308 round and it could put down a deer or moose. I can get a 300 Win Mag that "looks" like an AR but it's not... They cost ~$6500 and I'm too cheap to get one. So why ARs... They look cool... There are things I can add to an AR that I can't easily do to a more traditional gun... AR have rails that you can attach flashlights and other useful things like that. They are easily configured to your own specifications... Some people want a certain trigger and barrel length... Whatever.. FYI, the people that trained me for my Conceal Carry permit they had a come build your AR class on the weekends. You buy all the parts needed and they'll help you put it together.... Cool... Why an AR9 is a good self-defense gun in my house.... I can use it... and with the touch of a button my 90 lb daughter can move the butt of the rifle to accommodate her size. I saw a video a few weeks back that some guy took a traditional looking semi-automatic hunting rifle and shot 30 rounds through it in a repeated manner to show people that it doesn't have to be an AR15.... Well I couldn't find that one... I found this one though and it does a reasonable attempt to argue a pro gun point of view. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_tSVpK2cSc DS> I do have a question after reading your post. Define, with examples, DS> the difference between concealed carry and open carry. Is it nothing DS> more than whether or not the weapon is visible to others, or is there DS> more to it? DS> That's it... Do you recall Kyle Rittenhouse?? The young 18 year old who used an AR to defend himself... Shot 3 people, killing 2... Wisconsin is an Open Carry state. https://gunlawsuits.org/gun-laws/wisconsin/open-carry/ I think Kyle was under 18 at the time... Wisconsin Law https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-are-people-under-the-age-of-1 8-forbidden-from-open-carry-in-wi/ Kyle was legal to Open Carry the gun he had if he was 16 years and older... Doesn't matter if he lived in an other state... I think it's a 5 minute drive to go from his mom's house to Kenosha Wisconsin... Kenosha is where Kyle spent his day working and spending time with his friends. And yes you can go between states with a gun... I go between countries with one. Back to Open Carry... I'd rather people not know I'm carrying... If shit got real... and the perpetrator know I had a gun... He'd shoot me first!!! IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB) AKA Joe Schweier SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53 -=JoesBBS.com=- .... What do you mean, QWK? It took me over an hour to read! --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64) * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/200) .