Subj : What's really happening? To : Gregory Deyss From : Lee Lofaso Date : Tue May 09 2023 14:32:34 Hello Greg, LL>> A lady accused Trump of having raped her some 30 years ago. LL>> This is a civil case, not criminal. State charges, not federal. GD> She was gaga-eyed over Trump because of his celebrity status, but I do not GD> believe for one moment that Trump who is and was even back then worth GD> millions would do something so reckless, There won't be a conviction. Do you know why? I already told you, as duly noted above from the previous post. This is a civil case, not a criminal trial. He could be held "liable" - but never convicted. GD> I do not suffer from TDS, unlike you. Civil cases are based on the preponderance of evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt. As such, it makes no difference if the jurors have TDS or are MAGA nutjobs. GD> Just looking at this upon its face, what was alleged, also know U.S. GD> Citizens are innocent until proven guilty. Again, this is a civil case, not a criminal trial. As such, Trump will never be convicted, although he could be held liable, and have to pay a lot of money. GD> We still are not yet a Banana Republic. Louisiana has always been a Banana Republic. We kinda like it dat way. GD> 30 years ago ? That is when she claims the alleged rape happened. She did not make that public until 2019. But that is her claim. GD> C'mon man, I think she is looking for a payday or to sell her book of GD> fiction in hopes it will out sell Fifty Shades of Gray. If the jurors believe her story she likely wins a big payday. But Trump would still be a free man under our system of justice, as this is not a criminal trial. GD> I am no psychoanalyst but the way she talks about rape with how she believes GD> most other peoples definition is defined is really troublesome. It makes no difference what you, me, or anybody else believes. Only who are what the members of the jury believe. GD> Meaning: It is a real problem in the persuasion & convincing departments due GD> to the obvious norms. There are no "obvious norms" in this kind of trial. GD> Such an individual who as gone through such an ordeal wouldn't care how GD> other people define it. The defamation in this case is for his remarks after he was president. Remember, this is a civil case, not criminal. There is a second defamation case for his remarks while he was president. As such, the fun is only beginning as this one comes to end ... GD> For this reason alone her words are very questionable and suspicious. Not to worry. He is not being charged or tried criminally. It is a civil case and he can only be found liable. GD> "I think most people think of rape as being sexy... think of the fantasies." I have no idea if Trump is or is not a sado/machochist. Nor do I care. What he and Melania do in the bedroom is up to them. GD> Nope. Never happened. I wouldn't know. I'm not into watching such antics. LL>> This has nothing to do with Left vs Right, as the matter is not LL>> political. GD> Yeah? and I have a bridge I could sell you in Brooklyn. I have one in New Orleans to sell you (or anybody else). LL>> Donald Trump is a man who has been accused of having committed LL>> a heinous act against a woman inside a department store. Even though LL>> this a civil case rather than criminal, the damage he has done to LL>> her reputation was very costly and can never be fully restored. GD> What about his, look at all the which-hunts that have gone absolutely GD> no where. That was then. This is now. And the prosecuter has finished her closing arguments. 11 witnesses. And the defense rests, not having a case, having presented no witneeses, and Trump refusing to take the stand. But hey. It is guaranteed he will not be convicted. After all, this is not a criminal trial. For Life, Lee -- Make Sure Your Next Erection Is In Safe Hands --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2) .