Subj : Re: Pre-2021 vs. 2023 To : Lee Lofaso From : IB Joe Date : Thu Mar 23 2023 09:30:08 On 22 Mar 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following... LL> Hello Joe, LL> LL> LL>> Your hero, soon to become the first and only former president ever LL> LL>> indicted for real crimes. In two states, New York and Georgia. And h LL> LL>> excuse? He claims he cannot be charged with a crime because he is a LL> LL>> candidate for president ... LL> LL> IJ> This is not true... LL> LL> The crime(s) he is about to be indicted on are not dependent on LL> whether one is running for president or any other public office. LL> Looks like the NY indictment is falling apart. A letter from Micheal Cohen's lawyer was released yesterday dating back to 2018 stating that Cohen used his own money and never was reimbursed by Trump... This was used during the Federal Elections investigation. Bill Clinton gave one of his sex victims almost $1,000,000.00 while in office to silence her. Barack Obama paid a fine for campaign finance irregularities, no indictment just a fine. Hillary Clinton paid a lawyer to try to dig up crap on Trump, the infamous Steele Dossier, Whereby she tried to claim it as a legal expense to hide it from the public... She was made to pay a fine.... This is just recent history... No indictments... no raids... no perp walks ... no mug shots. no 7 year investigation looking for a crime. LL> IJ> The US is now a police state... LL> LL> That did not happen on January 6, much to orange man's disappointment. LL> You should look up police state.... January 6th was the US governments first attempt at a staged insurrection. If those people were trying to overthrow throw the government... someone would have showed up with a gun... Instead the police department was opening doors and giving tours of the capital. LL> IJ> We use to investigate crimes to fined a criminal. LL> LL> That's what the DOJ is for. And why so many who participated in the LL> events of January 6 are now spending quality time in prison. LL> The DOJ has not been doing their job... They have been investigating a man for 7 years looking for a crime... and haven't found one yet... They have been investigating parents who attend school board meetings ands calling them domestic terrorist... The list goes on and on... Current House of Representatives are holding investigations based on the weaponization of government agencies against US citizens.... DOJ is front and center. LL> IJ> Now, thanx to the Democrats, we investigate political revivals and lo LL> IJ> for LL> IJ> crimes. LL> LL> Didn't take the DOJ long to find hundreds on January 6, bringing them LL> to justice for what they did. LL> Story is not over yet as 44000 hours of video was released to Tucker Carlson and soon to be released to the public. I think anyone who caused damage or were violent in anyway should be punished ... But it looks like the government may have been more involved then they let on. Recently it was found in the Proud Boy's trial that the FBI was not giving exculpatory evidence and they had been an FBI plant amongst the Proud Boy's defense team. LL> IJ> With respect to the New York investigation... LL> LL> State crimes, not federal. Means no president (including Biden) can LL> pardon Trump even if they wanted to. Not even Trump himself could do LL> so, even if he somehow manages to win another term as prez. LL> I think, if they can muster up a charge, Trump would ware that as a badge of honor... Trump always says that the Deep State and Political Elites are after the citizens, not him, he's just in the way. This will only bolster his argument. I can't wait to get my Trump mugshot shirt. LL> IJ> They are trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole... LL> LL> Right now your boy is an unconvicted felon. Everybody knows he is LL> guilty, but the court of public opinion doesn't mean squat when it LL> comes to giving him what he truly deserves. LL> Right now he's not a unconvinced felon... nobody knows nothing because "normal" people wait for a trial to see the evidence and form an opinion from there... I'll still vote for him if he gets convicted... It's better than going with the current mess. LL> The fine people of New York and Georgia will change that. LL> LL> IJ> Moreover, Trump's "crimes" are past the term limits. LL> LL> The statute of limitations have not run out on any of the crimes LL> he is about to be indicted on, in either New York or Georgia. LL> The statute of limitations have been met with the NY case... misdemeanor is 2 years where as a state felony is 5 years for state crimes. This stormy Daniels thing dates back 7 years. New York's AG Bragg is trying to link it to something federal, not his jurisdiction... and because of this the US house of representatives are issuing a subpoena to NY AG Bragg to see if he's been in communications with the current administration.... LL> IJ> With respect to the Georgia phone call... LL> LL> Yes, it is all on tape. And aired repeatedly by the news media. LL> LL> IJ> I cannot wait to see this go. ... LL> LL> In Georgia, it is legal to record telephone conversations. Even though LL> the person Trump was talking to has died, the telephone conversation is LL> still evidence that can be used in court. In other words, Trump's goose LL> is cooked. LL> And soon the reason for that call... All the ballot harvesting... all the voting machine irregularities... all he discovery will be brought out... I can't wait.... About his goose being cooked... for the past 7 years that's all we ever heard... hasn't happened yet... All the liberals and liberal media salivating just oner more time.... LL> IJ> As what I have heard is that Trump made a phone call telling the Secr LL> IJ> of State to look at then evidence of fraud during the 2020 election i LL> IJ> state... LL> LL> The recording of that telephone call is evidence that can be used LL> against Trump in a court of law. Even though the Secretary of State LL> has died, the evidence remains. Please do keep up. LL> LL> IJ> If Trump gets his day in court he might be able to show this evidence LL> IJ> discovery. LL> LL> Trump will be indicted on multiple counts in the state of Georgia. LL> The foreman has said so in a public interview. As a defendant, he will LL> have the right to face his accusers. And answer all questions. Or be LL> a wimp, and plead the fifth. LL> LL> IJ> It'll be interesting to see what happens... LL> LL> He could always plead guilty (in both New York and Georgia) thus LL> avoiding a trial altogether. LL> This is not Trump's MO... He's a fighter and a counter puncher... A trial is needed so we can see his evidence and the State's evidence... Micheal Flinn, as well as a few others, won their freedom after challenging the prosecutors and demanding the evidence they had against them... In Flinn's case things fell apart pretty quick. I've bought popcorn and I'm ready to see what they have... IB Joe AKA Joe Schweier SysOp of Joe's BBS -=JoesBBS.com=- .... If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/64) * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/200) .