Subj : Re: Biden Receives Award!
To   : Mike Powell
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Thu Nov 10 2022 19:38:39

On 10 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
 MP> > For the most part, yes. Democrats do lie, but not at the rate that
 MP> > Republicans and conservatives do.
 MP> I think it is more along the lines of a Democrat is more forgiving and
 MP> will pass something off as a gaffe, mis-statement, etc., when a Democrat
 MP> says something that is not true, just like a Republican probably would
 MP> for a Republican.

Perhaps, but even so, Biden is criticized for making gaffes while if these
lies were considered gaffes, Trump had at least 56x more "gaffes" than Biden
does. Something doesn't add up there.

 MP> >  MP> Biden did not do that and actually increased the lie after the Whit
 MP> >  MP> House admitted it was not verifiable.  In another case, he made a v
 MP> >  MP> misleading statement, the Biden White House made an even more misle
 MP> >  MP> one, and then retracted it when Twitter embarrassed them with a fac
 MP> >  MP> check.
 MP> > So in the second case, he did take corrective measures after being infor
 MP> > of his mistake. How many times did Trump do that?
 MP> He did not take corrective measures.  The person running the White House
 MP> Twitter account deleted their tweet.  Since it is a recent one, we have
 MP> to wait and see if Biden repeats that one to know, or if he comes out and
 MP> corrects the statement with something like "Social Security checks are
 MP> going up because of the existing cost of living adjustment, and are going
 MP> up a whole bunch because of inflation."

Yep, we'll see. At any rate, corrective measures were taken.

 MP> > Trump is much less relevant as a political force, but is still quite rel
 MP> > historically. That Republicans only stopped supporting him after his pic
 MP> > performed poorly does not mean that those same Republicans supported him
 MP> > through all sorts of other things.
 MP> I would say his picks performed poorly because most Republicans had
 MP> already stopped supporting him.  I don't know any that are excited about
 MP> the possibility of him running again.

I'm not sure if Trump's picks performed poorly because of ins endorsement, or
in spite of it. In other words, did people specifically avoid voting for
candidates with a Trump endorsement, or did a Trump endorsement simply fail
to help already-bad candidates?

 MP> >  MP> So you will need to find another Republican to fixate on.
 MP> > Nope. That you don't support Trump now doesn't mean that you didn't supp
 MP> > him for 4+ years.
 MP> When looking at events happening now and in the future, you do indeed
 MP> need to fixate on someone else.

Not necessarily. He may try to run again, and he may end up being the GOP
nominee. He is under a lot of legal pressure from the DOJ, NY, and GA. His
legal strategy when attacked has been to delay, but he's running out of ways
to do that. If he ran again, he could have two more years in which he could
claim that his legal adversaries are attacking a political figure. I think it
"only" costs a $25,000 "filing fee" to become a Republican candidate, no
matter who you are or what your chances of getting the nomination are. If he
wins the 2024 presidential election, that's another four years of virtual
immunity. It's got to be tempting.

Jeff.

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