Subj : Re: Sowell on Slavery To : Mike Powell From : Jeff Thiele Date : Wed Nov 09 2022 16:59:08 On 09 Nov 2022, Mike Powell said the following... MP> > If military conscription is slavery, then the US practiced slavery as la MP> > the 70s and Israel along with some Scandinavian countries practice slave MP> > this day. MP> > Or, conscription is not slavery. MP> It is not just the conscription, but the fact they were conscripted MP> before citizens of the home countries, Conscription is conscription, regardless of the selection process. MP> and also their treatment as MP> second-class citizens during the times before, during, and after WW I -- MP> as property of the colonial state. Being treated as a second-class citizen is not slavery -- ask any Black person who had to put up with Jim Crow laws. Britain has always considered its citizens, regardless of color, to be the property of the state. That was one of the factors that led to the War of 1812; Britain was impressing (conscripting) US sailors under the theory of "once a British citizen, always a British citizen." MP> Persons living in the UK and Germany were free. Non-white persons MP> living in their colonies, not so much. But were they slaves? Slavery has a pretty specific definition. Jeff. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32) * Origin: Cold War Computing BBS (1:387/26) .