Subj : Re: Sowell on Slavery
To   : JEFF THIELE
From : Mike Powell
Date : Wed Nov 09 2022 16:51:00

>  MP> Also, although it was outlawed in Western Europe, on European soil, it is
>  MP> not completely accurate to say that European countries were not still
>  MP> practicing forms of slavery before, and after, the US Civil War.  During
>  MP> WW I, which started roughly 50 years after slavery was outlawed in the
>  MP> US, the war spilled out from Europe and into the African colonies as the
>  MP> European leaders hoped to use the conflict to gain more territory.
>  MP> While France apparently treated most of their colonial subjects as well
>  MP> as their citizens, the same cannot be said for the UK and Germany.  Many
>  MP> of the subjects were conscripted into the armed forces before
>  MP> conscription was mandatory in other parts of the empires, and were not
>  MP> treated as equals. The German colonial military officers, in particular,
>  MP> were known not to spare the whip when it came time to motivate their
>  MP> subjects into defending their colonies from the French and British.

> If military conscription is slavery, then the US practiced slavery as late as
> the 70s and Israel along with some Scandinavian countries practice slavery to
> this day.

> Or, conscription is not slavery.

It is not just the conscription, but the fact they were conscripted before
citizens of the home countries, and also their treatment as second-class
citizens during the times before, during, and after WW I -- as property of the
colonial state.

Persons living in the UK and Germany were free.  Non-white persons living in
their colonies, not so much.


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