Subj : Re: Cancel Culture
To   : JEFF THIELE
From : Mike Powell
Date : Fri Oct 28 2022 18:41:00

>  MP> > At an October 3 fashion show in Paris, Kanye (or "Ye") West had models
>  MP> > wearing "White Lives Matter," a known white supremacist slogan, walk do
>  MP> > runway.
>  MP> I agree that some think it is, just as they think saying "all lives
>  MP> matter" is.

> Except that "White Lives Matter" has een adopted by actual white supremacist
> groups.
> https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/white-lives-matter

Well, I lump that in with the Nazi's adopting the swastika, which was a
symbol used by the Hindu culture long before they got hold of it. They can
pick up and use any symbol or phrase they want, but it is only a "white
supremacist slogan" when a white supremacist is using it.  I somehow see
Kanye as not meeting one of the top requirements for being a "white"
supremacist.

>  MP> > When Sean "Diddy" Combs said that he "did not rock" with the WLM moveme
>  MP> > West responded, "Ima use you as an example to show the Jewish people th
>  MP> > told you to call me that no one can threaten or influence." This statem
>  MP> > got West kicked off of Instagram.
>  MP> I have read that quote over and over.  Either you left something out, or
>  MP> it was nonsense to begin with.  :)
>
> I accidentally left out a "me" at the end. Hope that helps.

Yes, if Puffy called him, it does make sense.

> The implication by West was that Combs is being controlled by Jews. Combs, to
> his credit, attempted to respond with reason but West was having none of it.

Kanye does not seem like the type that picks up on reason very easily.

>  MP> > West then posted on Twitter (where he hadn't posted for two years): "I'
>  MP> bit
>  MP> > sleepy tonight but when I wake up I'm going death con 3 on JEWISH PEOPL
>  MP> > (original emphasis). This got him kicked off of Twitter.
>  MP> Is Puff Daddy Jewish?  Otherwise, I am missing the connection that West
>  MP> is making.
>
> I'm not sure that this was even aimed directly at Combs.

Maybe it wasn't.  If he believes that Puffy is being controled by Jews, I
guess it makes sense.

>  MP> > Was West a victim of Cancel Culture, or were all of those companies bre
>  MP> > ties with him a natural consequence of his anti-Semitic speech?
>  MP> It sounds like he made threats ("going death con 3"), which can be
>  MP> construed as beyond freedom of speech, so I believe it was more than
>  MP> either of those but probably mostly the latter.
>
> I don't think it was a serious threat, and that he probably meant that he
> would continue to assault Jews verbally.

If you make anti-semetic remarks, or other remarks that are against the
user agreement, and threaten to keep making them (as you interpret it, and I
cannot disagree), then I would expect one would get suspended or banned from
social media.  If he had apologized, maybe some of the endorcement
companies would not have bailed but, as he also said straight out that they
could not drop him and was also threatening to continue, I cannot say I
would have expected any other outcome.


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