Subj : Re: It's a start
To   : Mike Powell
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Mon Oct 24 2022 22:15:29

On 24 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
 MP> > Compared to the number of peaceful BLM protests, the acts of violence we
 MP> > relatively few and involved a small number of individuals in a vastly la
 MP> > group of protesters. The violent people were not members of the BLM
 MP> > organization.
 MP> I don't think we know that for sure.  It might be more accurate to say
 MP> that BLM distanced themselves from those individuals, or doesn't claim
 MP> them as members.  I am assuming they did one of those two things, just
 MP> as Rose City Antifa did against the "other" "antifa" protesters in
 MP> Portland.

We know that there were thousands of protests across the country, and we know
that not all of the protesters in any one location that had riots,
participated in those riots. In fact, very few did.

 MP> > In fact the media, and especially the conservative media, focused on the
 MP> > of violence far more than the larger protests. There were many protests 
 MP> > no violence occurred. The "sugarcoating" is a response to that. 
 MP> Part of the problem here is that the mainstream media would stand in
 MP> front of a scene with a fire in the background and try to pass the whole
 MP> day's events off as "peaceful."  From what I can tell, many places were
 MP> like Louisville... mostly peaceful during the day, mostly not so
 MP> peaceful once the Sun went down.

Or, conversely, part of the problem is that conservative media would stand in
front of a scene with a fire in the background and try to pass the events at
every protest across the country as violent.

Which is more true? The vast majority of protests were non-violent.

 MP> "Mostly not so peaceful" is more likely to get news coverage,
 MP> conservative or otherwise, sugarcoated or otherwise.

Agreed.

 MP> > A few got out of hand. The same thing has been known to happen in respon
 MP> > sporting event outcomes.
 MP> Hmmmm... you are not one of those soccer hooligans are you?  :D

No, but I've seen them on TV. Football fans will do it, too, but not as often.

 MP> > Presumably it went to operating costs and efforts to bring attention to 
 MP> > cause. The house-buying story isn't "recent," and one can "purchase" a $
 MP> > million home for considerably less than $1.4 million. Most home "purchas
 MP> > are achieved with a down-payment and financed over time.
 MP> To get a loan (from a proper lender!) they have to believe that you can
 MP> pay the home off.  To get a mortgage on a $1.4 million home, I would
 MP> have had to prove I have a *lot* of money and a way to continue earning
 MP> that money over the period of the mortgage.

True, but you would not have needed $1.4 million. If you had $1.4 million to
spend on a home, you could have saved yourself a lot of money in interest
payments.

 MP> Now, there are/were lenders that didn't do their proper homework and/or
 MP> fed on people who were buying more than they could ever afford.  That is
 MP> what leads to housing market disasters.

It's possible that was a factor; it's possible that it wasn't.

Jeff.

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