Subj : Re: It's a start
To   : Jeff Thiele
From : Gregory Deyss
Date : Sun Oct 23 2022 07:32:28

On 19 Oct 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...
 
 JT> No, they don't. The BLM movement is separate from the BLM organization.

BLM Organization Vs BLM Movement: A Semantic Trap
https://tinyurl.com/57chwxut

An overwhelming majority of Americans agree with the truism that Black lives
matter, myself included. Black lives do matter. Police brutality is abhorrent
and we should always strive to see that everyone has the opportunity to
realize the American Dream as MLK called for.

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MLK was for the use of peace above all else. 
Which does not obviously include any actions of violence, but many of these
so called peaceful protests have been violent with fires in the very same 
communities and neighborhoods that they are living within. 
Which is why there has been a whole lots of sugarcoating going. 
Including looting, but yet claiming the reasoning is due Police Brutality.
It does not make any sense to scream and holler about Police Brutality when
you're all the while breaking the law. Peaceful Protests are fine and a
constitutional right, but so many of these get out of hand and become
something else then a Peace Protest.

BLM raised nearly 80 Million, where did the money go. 
It did not include the improvement of these Black communities, but it did buy
several buy several mansions for Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse
Khan-Cullors recently purchased a $1.4 million home in an exclusive Los Angeles
neighborhood.
https://tinyurl.com/bdf5dewj

Rashad Turner, who founded the BLM chapter in St. Paul, Minnesota, claims he
had no choice but to leave as the movement "doesn't care about helping black
families". 
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15136535/blm-founder-quit-ugly-truth/
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https://tinyurl.com/57chwxut
continued..
Conflating that sentiment with the organization of the same name (BLM) is a
tactic frequently used to dismiss legitimate discussion of said
organization and its policy positions. This is a semantic trap used by
those who fluidly pivot between the broader movement and the BLM
organization, which stifles dialogue and avoids discussion of contentious
positions of the organization BLM that warrant deliberation. 

BLM the organization has called for and supported extensive, and at times
total, defunding the police, a policy polling shows is not supported by a
majority of Americans, myself included, who agree that Black lives do
matter and recognize that low crime rates save lives.

On their website, BLM the organization advocates to "disrupt the
Western-prescribed nuclear family structure," while studies have shown the
importance of fatherhood on raising children. I strongly disagree with this
position and would encourage people to read Obama's June 2008 speech on the
importance of fatherhood.

Through chapters BLM the organization has advocated far-left policies. For
example, BLM DC openly dedicates itself to the abolition of capitalism.

These positions and more warrant a broad discussion. Like others, I
volunteered to get involved locally because I care and wanted to be a part
of the dialogue on important issues. Mr Zakur is incorrect in his statement
that I did not lead with recognition; I always have. Despite his claims
otherwise, BLM the organization and its chapters do openly seek to achieve
some of their objectives "by dismantling our American principals and
structures." This is concerning. Nothing of what I have said is imagined and I
can provide sources should one wish to read them, many from the website of BLM
and its chapters.

Just as I may consider myself a patriot, yet disagree with aspects of the
Patriot Act, in the same respect we should be able to have objective
conversations about these specific policies without chastising those
raising concerns as though they broadly do not think Black lives matter.

Perhaps some do not realize there is more to BLM the organization than the
title, or that it and the movement are not one and the same. Sadly though,
others clearly capitalize on this as a bullying tactic to silence dissent
by misrepresenting those who may raise concerns, often personally. 

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