Subj : The Big Lie
To   : Mike Powell
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Tue Oct 11 2022 16:23:15

On 11 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
 MP> >  MP> Unless you or Lee works for a drug cartel, those citizens are not l
 MP> >  MP> us.
 MP> > In some ways they are not, but in some ways they are. Fentanyl-smuggling
 MP> > aside, you might have more in common with some of them than you do with
 MP> > non-fentanyl-smuggling citizens. For starters, they're US citizens.
 MP> In your stated scenario here, so are the non-smuggling-citizens.

That is true. But some of the smugglers might be men, and you'd have more in
common with them, perhaps, than with non-smuggling women citizens. Who knows,
some of those smugglers might even be conservative.

 MP> >  MP> Carrying contraband into the US is illegal so, despite the fact tha
 MP> >  MP> these citizens are crossing at legal checkpoints, they are crossing
 MP> >  MP> illegally, another way that they are not like me and, presumably, n
 MP> >  MP> like you or Lee.
 MP> > They are not crossing illegally; they are smuggling. Have you ever taken
 MP> > own snacks into a movie theater?
 MP> Actually I have not.  They are crossing while committing an illegal act,
 MP> Lawyer Jeff.  People crossing illegally are also committing an illegal
 MP> act, hence the illegal part.  I don't see an actual difference.

They are two different crimes. If you're driving, get pulled over, and are
found to be in possession of stolen goods, as long as you're legally allowed
to drive and weren't breaking any traffic laws, you're only charged with
being in possession of stolen goods. You're not charged with any kind of
"illegal driving."

Jeff.

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