Subj : Re: Chelsea
To   : Aaron Thomas
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Sun Sep 25 2022 09:53:03

On 23 Sep 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
 AT>  JT> Sure they did. Your memory is failing you. Here is contemporary cover
 AT>  JT> of the anti-Obama rhetoric during the 2012 presidential campaign seas
 AT>  JT> https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/21/opinion/avlon-hostile-gop-rhetoric
 AT> We were talking about the media being hostile with Obama, not political
 AT> parties being hostile with Obama. (Of course the GOP will talk bad about
 AT> Obama.)

Just in case it escaped your notice, those hostilities toward Obama were
reported by the media.

 AT> You're missing the main point (that Trump was slandered by the media and
 AT> other recent presidents were not.)

In what way was Trump slandered? He's a buffoon in real life and made a lot
of mistakes.

 AT>  JT> But of course, that was just rhetoric. Trump took it to the next leve
 AT>  JT> actually attacking our Constitution and our democracy.
 AT> All the Trump stuff is a distraction attempt. They need Trump to get
 AT> lost while they run off with the power and the loot. Nobody is feeling
 AT> the burn of Trump right now, we're feeling the burn of Biden.

I disagree that it's a distraction. Those are serious charges.

 AT>  JT>  AT> Joe's another Obama when it comes to media attention. They ain't
 AT>  JT>  AT> nothin bad about Joe, despite all their opportunities to strike 
 AT>  JT> Maybe there's nothing bad to say.
 AT> How about this stuff?
 AT> "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle!"
 AT> "If you're not sure if you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black!"

Where did you hear about this stuff?

 AT> I don't want my president on video tape saying those things. Let me see
 AT> video footage of Trump trashing the veterans. (Oh my bad, footage of that
 AT> doesn't exist, it's only mouthage.)

It may not be on video tape, but witnesses confirm that Trump questioned why
he should go visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France, reasoning
that it wasn't worth visiting because the cemetary is filled with "losers"
and "suckers."

He also intimated that veterans with PTSD are "weak" and "can't handle it."

 AT>  JT>  AT> Fox News doesn't count. Only cable subscribers even have access 
 AT>  JT>  AT> Fox News.
 AT>  JT> What new Calvinball rule is this?
 AT> Do they give you free Fox News in Texas?

No, but it's hardly true that everyone in Texas is limited to free media.

 AT>  JT>  AT> Every single broadcast channel the country plus 99% of cable
 AT>  JT>  AT> channels were "impeaching" Trump since before day 1.
 AT>  JT> Your evidence for this?
 AT> Turn the TV on!

That won't work, since it's well past "day 1." What's being reported on now
isn't the same as it was then. So again, do you have any evidence to back up
this claim?

Jeff.

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