Subj : Re: fbi To : Mike Powell From : Jeff Thiele Date : Tue Sep 20 2022 17:07:51 On 20 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following... MP> > On 18 Sep 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following... MP> > AT> JT> AT> Some jews are actually guilty of the stuff that nazis acc MP> > AT> JT> AT> th MP> > AT> JT> Is that so? Examples, Nazi? MP> > AT> I'm glad you ruined the conversation with name calling, because I'm MP> > AT> conservative upstate New Yorker and we don't care for color talk. MP> > Do you not have any examples? MP> > What are some jews actually guilty of, as accused by Nazis? MP> One of the things that Hitler claimed they were involved with is MP> Communism. That is a very general belief to have about all members of MP> the Jewish community. That said, back before WWI, there was indeed MP> involvement by Jewish Germans in Communist activities. Some of them MP> were also Zionists, who moved to Israel and settled there, setting up MP> their communes in places which, in their mind, were "unclaimed lands." And that affects Germany how? MP> So, some German Jews did indeed have Communist beliefs, which the Nazis MP> incorrectly accused them all of having. So, the Nazis took a small truth MP> and made a large falsehood out of it. True. In order to demonize Jews in general. But when someone says, yeah, some few of the Jews were communists, so the Nazis were right about some things, that's not a very good look. MP> Back to the Zionists who left for Israel before WWI... MP> These settlements caused a lot of friction with the native Jews, Muslims, MP> and Christians. Back several years ago, there was a show on PBS about MP> this period in history. The German (and other European) Jews took over MP> lands that those natives had been using as their nomadic hearding lands MP> and, of course, the Zionists also wanted the most fertile lands for MP> themselves, leaving less desirable land for the natives. The Zionists MP> also brought in muscle, sometimes in the form of Russian criminals, to MP> keep the natives off of "their" land. This lead to some violent MP> incidents between said muscle and the natives. That was also the time period of the spread of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a Russian invention intended to turn people against the Jews. Interestingly, the Wikipedia article on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" says this: "Pipes notes that the Protocols emphasizes recurring themes of conspiratorial antisemitism: 'Jews always scheme', 'Jews are everywhere', 'Jews are behind every institution', 'Jews obey a central authority, the shadowy 'Elders'', and 'Jews are close to success." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion) Which, if one were to replace "Jews" with "Leftists" and "Elders" with "the Elite" sounds quite surprisingly like Ron. MP> At the time, that area was a part of the Ottoman Empire. As their power MP> was waning, they had some difficulty keeping law and order in that area. MP> There was eventually a movement to come to some peaceful resolution MP> between the Zionists, the natives, and the government. WWI broke out MP> and, with the Ottomans losing control of that area, this never happened. MP> One things I took away from that special was that, despite being of MP> different religions, the natives apparently got along pretty well up MP> until the Zionist Europeans starting showing up in numbers. They wanted the return of what they saw as their homeland and, after WWII, got it. Courtesy of the U.S. of A. Jeff. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32) * Origin: Cold War Computing BBS (1:387/26) .