Subj : Re: fbi
To   : Mike Powell
From : Rebecca Marie
Date : Tue Sep 13 2022 14:07:00

-=> Mike Powell wrote to REBECCA MARIE <=-

 > If you weren't within earshot of what Hillary said, or an eyewitness to
 > what Hillary "did", then you are definitely listening to what others said.
 
You are trying to answer what I said with something that is completely
different. I said that you were listening/reading someone else's account of
what happened since you said that you weren't listening to anyone else. You
cited a source (Roque Planas), so you are listening to what *he* says is
the most important parts of those pages in Hillary's memoir. But was planas
said were most important *actually* the most important? You'd only know by
reading the memoir itself.

 > My guess is that you heard what Hllary "said, did and took credit for"
 > straight from conservative-leaning media. Rush Limbaugh? Fox News?

 MP> The Huffington Post is a good example that I have cited here multiple
 MP> times. They cite her own memoirs which, as a autobiographical book, was
 
Perfect, you directly refuted my statement and presented citations that
reinforce your rebuttal. That is exactly how logical debates are supposed
to be handled. Good job!

 >  MP> Using a private email server for government correspondence was only
 >  MP> another example, feeding right into the fact that she is not
 >  MP> trustworthy.

 > That is not a fact, that is an opinion. If you can find facts that back up
 > your opinion, then you'd have more credibility.

Mike, Mike, Mike. You apparently forgot the sentence that YOU WROTE? Let me
re-quote it for you:

 MP> "feeding right into the *fact* that she is not trustworthy."

THAT is what I said is an opinion and not a fact.


 MP> I am certain that breaching trust is, by definition, untrustworthy.
 
 MP> The documents I sign are pretty black and white.  The definition of
 MP> untrustworthy is readily available in any dictionary.  I don't see an
 MP> opinion there.

The definition according to Oxford is:

trustAłworAłthy
/Eˆtr™s(t)EŒw™rTIŸHŽ“/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
able to be relied on as honest or truthful.
"leave a spare key with a trustworthy neighbor"

The opinion is about how you view something to be relied on. If someone
tells white lies 10% of the time, but nothing but the truth otherwise, are
they trustworthy? Isn't lying breaching trust? If a husband tells his wife
that he is going to use $100 for groceries, but instead gambles it away, is
he now untrustworthy, or did he just make a stupid mistake? You and I and
the wife may have different answers to that question.

 MP> So now I will wait for your message telling me that, as a former First
 MP> Lady and SoS, she should be held to a lesser standard than Jeff or I
 MP> when it comes to mishandling government information.

You are making an argument against something that I did not say. I never
said if I thought that Clinton having the email server was a good or bad
thing, just that saying that she is "untrustworthy" is not a fact but an
opinion, and that getting information from a second-hand source means that
you are listening to others.

As for my opinion, which has *nothing* to do with Trump taking classified
documents when he left the White House, is that it was stupid and Hillary
Clinton should have f**ing known better. Even if she never sent
confidential information using that server, there was a possibility that it
could have been used to do so. 

To me, that doesn't necessarily mean that she's untrustworthy, but she
doesn't understand infosec best practices. Others disagree with my opinion,
and feel that makes her untrustworthy. You can see that in the polling:
Clinton's lead in the polls practically vanished after that story came out.

But I digress.


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