Subj : Re: Chelsea
To   : JEFF THIELE
From : Mike Powell
Date : Tue Sep 06 2022 17:58:00

>  MP> > And then there are politically outspoken conservative celebrities you m
>  MP> > remember, such as Roseanne Barr, Jon Voight, Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Phil
>  MP> > Willie Robinson, Stephen Baldwin, 50 Cent, Jesse James, Mike Ditka, Sco
>  MP> > Baio, Kirstie Alley, James Woods, Dennis Quaid, Herschel Walker, Dr. Oz
>  MP> > "Diamond and Silk," Trace Adkins, Isaiah Washington, Elizabeth Hasselbe
>  MP> > Jack Nicklaus, Lil Wayne, Brett Favre, and more.
>  MP> Did any of them threaten to leave the country, or retire from performing,
>  MP> if Obama or Biden got elected, and also not follow through?  I was
>  MP> specific about that above.  Out of the ones I have heard of on your
>  MP> list, and actuallly like, I don't remember any of them doing that.  The
>  MP> others I have either never heard of or don't follow enough to know (or
>  MP> care) if they did or not.

> They supported Trump, which is enough to refute Aaron's nonsense.

If you were trying to refute Aaron, why were you replying to me with that
list?

>  MP> >  MP> Others liked them, though, and I am sure that some of them are sma
>  MP> >  MP> minded enough that the threat was a concern to them.  However, I a
>  MP> >  MP> would find it easy to believe that most of those folks were not go
>  MP> >  MP> vote for the Republican in question anyway.
>  MP> > The Republican party has no shortage of small-minded, bigoted, ignorant
>  MP> > and/or uneducated voters. I don't think there's much room to throw ston
>  MP> > there.
>  MP> Again, on the topic of celebs who just about every election threaten to
>  MP> leave the country or retire, and people who follow them, I think there is
>  MP> plenty of room to do so.

> The conversation is not about either, but about celebrities who publicly
> endorse political candidates, and whether they should be allowed to do so.

You responded to me, where I said I was ok with them having public
political opinions, but not OK with the ones who tied public promises/threats
to those opinions and then don't follow through.

Your response to ME, not Aaron, was to list a bunch of conservatives who were
public about their politics, which seems odd since I am the one that is ok
with celebs expressing their opinion without making promises/threats along
with them.

Sounds like you replied to the wrong person?

>  MP> Of the ones I recognize, they all would fall into the first half of that
>  MP> statement.

> So there's a double-standard, eh? Conservative celebrities are expressing
> their beliefs, but liberal celebrities are milking their audience?
> Interesting perspective, but I don't agree.

No I only said that about the ones I recognize.  I don't know who some of
them are, and I don't follow several others, so I cannot say if they are good
examples of people who really believe what they say (vs. bandwagonning) or
not.

Since none of them that *I* know of were not following through with
post-election promises or threats, I only feel certain about them.  Since you
don't seem to know whether they made such threats or not, either, it seems
very odd that you listed them all off to me.


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