Subj : Re: Chelsea To : Jeff Thiele From : Aaron Thomas Date : Sun Sep 04 2022 03:02:26 JT> AT> That's fine I guess but why so many celebrities all of a sudden? Why' JT> AT> it so important for them to win this election? JT> JT> In a word, Trump. That doesn't make any sense. There was never any obvious indication that Trump would be harmful, at least not back in 2016. JT> AT> They didn't care if JT> AT> Mccain or Romney were going to beat Obama; there was no mass-messagin JT> AT> like this for those elections. JT> JT> So what changed? What's your guess? What do you mean? JT> AT> Celebrities weren't willing to lose fans JT> AT> for getting political back then, but in 2016 they all marched togethe JT> AT> to trash Trump. JT> JT> They felt more strongly about Trump than previous candidates. Yea, for sure, but that doesn't explain why. JT> No, it doesn't. Why are you opposed to celebrities using their clout to JT> endorse political candidates? Because they did it collectively and abruptly, and they never acted that way before. And they did it to hurt a candidate who had nothing personal to gain from becoming president. Where were they in 2012? Nobody had anything bad to say about Romney. JT> Democrats are not "wasting so much money." They are investing in our JT> country, something Republicans seem to be unwilling to do. The money is being squandered, and voters are being lied to. I know we had this conversation before, but look at what whitehouse.gov says about the previous money grab: "These game-changing investments will put American plumbers and pipefitters to work replacing all of the Americas lead pipes and service lines and making other critical upgrades." Notice the word "all" in there? But not "all" the lead pipes got replaced, and not "all" of them ever will be. But whitehouse.gov *insists* otherwise: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/16/fact-sh et-the-biden-harris-lead-pipe-and-paint-action-plan/ --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64) * Origin: CompuBBS | Ashburn VA | cfbbs.scinet-ftn.org (1:275/99) .