Subj : Re: Fundamentalists and P
To   : JEFF THIELE
From : Mike Powell
Date : Sun Sep 04 2022 11:10:00

> Offering to trade the far-right for the far-left is a form of bargaining, but
> a poor one.

I don't think he was offering to trade one for the other, but rather
stating that both extremes are bad.  Violence aside, persons at either of
the poles are not going to compromise on anything and make it difficult for
anyone else to do so.

> The far right widely espouses political violence, secession,
> and civil war, while violent sentiments on the far-left are extremely rare.

That second half is BS.  You should do some homework there. A previous
breach of the Congressional chambers in the 1950s would be a good start.
Various groups of leftist radicals during the 1960s/70s would be another
one that would include violent sentiments and political/government
structural change in their beliefs.  Best place to find many of those
involved is to look over the list of pardons handed out by Clinton, Obama,
and to some extent Carter.

Let's not forget the shoot-em-up of the Republican team for the
Congressional baseball game.

There was a sports echo on another network that I used to read.  At least it
was supposed to be about sports.  It had been taken over by politics.  The
only person in there who was claiming to be armed and ready for
revolution/civil war was in the "not my President!" crowd and claimed to be
affiliated with others like himself.  Ironically, this would usually come
out after someone made the incorrect assumption, as was recently made here
by Gregory, that "lefties" are not armed.  Ironic because he just made that
bad assumption, and ironic because it was you that called him out on it.

Also somewhat ironic because all of that was before COVID and the 2020 riot
season.

> In particular, as of late, the far-right has used violence to threaten
> democracy and the peaceful transfer of power, while the far-left has done no
> such thing. Sure, there were the George Floyd riots, but those were more about
> local police oppression than national political issues.

Again, more BS.  More came out of the "George Floyd riots" than what you
claim.  The true peaceful protesters were indeed protesting police
oppression, while many of the rioters were opportunists who saw an opening
for political change, including anarchists seeking changes to the structure of
our government... see Portland and Seattle for two examples.  Some of what
went on in Wisconsin and in Louisville, KY, are two more.

I am honestly shocked that you admit to riots now, considering the
narrative here has always been "those were peaceful protests."  Also, that
you admit to "riots" plural, while claiming that those violent sentiments are
"extremely rare" in comparison to a single riot carried out by one group on
one day.

I have always maintained that, if it had not been for the 2020 Summer riots
going mostly unchecked, what happened in January the following year would
also not have happened.  One group saw another getting away with all sorts
of crap, saw most of the crap being passed off as "peaceful" or
"understandable" by those in power, and decided (incorrectly!) that this form
of behavior was now acceptable in our country.


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