Subj : Re: Blunt says that Trump
To   : Mike Powell
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Fri Sep 02 2022 15:35:35

On 02 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
 MP> >  MP> Yes, and the government has had a couple of years to get tired of t
 MP> >  MP> and accelerate their efforts, but waited until now.  Trump does not
 MP> >  MP> control them.
 MP> > He had plenty of opportunities to avoid this. The longer they gave him, 
 MP> > more opportunites he had. He could have turned the stuff over at any tim
 MP> > didn't. They do not control Trump.
 MP> But they do control when they react.  Trump could have turned them over,
 MP> and the fact that he didn't turn them over a long time ago should have
 MP> made it obvious to Archives, the DOJ, and the FBI that he was not going
 MP> to.

Perhaps they took siezing things from a former president very seriously.

 MP> Then again, this is the same FBI who tracks potentially dangerous persons
 MP> but then does nothing until they've actually shot up a bunch of people.

"Potentially dangerous?" What can they do if no crime has been committed? Do
you think that the government should be able to arrest "potentially
dangerous" people?

 MP> >  MP> If they were that sensitive, and the FBI knew that Trump removed th
 MP> >  MP> they should have been after them.  If we are to believe the narrati
 MP> >  MP> that Trump is irresponsible with the documents, who knows who could
 MP> >  MP> seen them during those two years.
 MP> > Indeed. The government was given false assurances by Trump and his lawye
 MP> > that all of the documents had been turned over, which probably delayed
 MP> > things. Additionally, he was given ample time to turn over all of the
 MP> > documents. He didn't.
 MP> He was given more than ample time... too much time.

That's subjective.

 MP> >  MP> At my current job, I have access to sensitive data.  If I even susp
 MP> >  MP> that there is a breach, if I wait two years... or, to suit you, eve
 MP> >  MP> months... to do anything about it I am likely going to federal pris
 MP> >  MP> it turns out there was a breach and I did nothing about it.
 MP> > Same. And the same if I'm found to be the originator of that breach.
 MP> So, do you think they'd wait two years to come after you if they knew
 MP> about it?  No, because waiting that two years for *you* to "give
 MP> yourself up" or return the documents would not produce any political
 MP> result.

I'm not an ex-president with a lot of lawyers.

 MP> I *know* they'd not wait two years to see if I can be trusted to do the
 MP> right thing or not.

You're not an ex-president with a lot of lawyers, either.

 MP> >  MP> > And now the DOJ is saying that there won't be any indictments bef
 MP> >  MP> > th
 MP> >  MP> > midterm elections, which kind of pops your whole balloon.
 MP> >  MP> He is not indicted, but you already think he is guilty, right?
 MP> > Of course. He's admitted as much. At first he tried to say that the FBI
 MP> > planted the documents, but then when the DOJ submitted photographs of th
 MP> > documents laid out on the floor, Trump claimed that he didn't keep them 
 MP> > the floor like that; he kept them in crates. Oops!
 MP> OK, so what was your point regarding indictments before the midterms?

My point was that indictments before the midterms would be politically
advantageous for Democrats, would it not? And yet, they are ruling that out.

Jeff.

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