Subj : Re: fbi
To   : Mike Powell
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Wed Aug 31 2022 19:58:21

On 31 Aug 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
 MP> > Clinton said that Russia was "grooming" Gabbard for a third-party run,
 MP> > specifically mentioning not collusion but the same kind of foreign socia
 MP> > media support that Trump received in 2016. Gabbard had notably split wit
 MP> > party over policy on Russia, taking several pro-Putin stances.
 MP> HRC went farther than that with her second (or more?) go at Gabbard.
 MP> Gabbard had publicly split from the HRC wing of the party on many things
 MP> that put her at odds with HRC.

What exactly did HRC say?

 MP> >  MP> Now, an example where it becomes apparent a government entity was
 MP> >  MP> involved in hiding something... "the Biden laptop is Russian
 MP> >  MP> misinformation" and does not exist, even though we are already in
 MP> >  MP> possession of it.
 MP> > The laptop itself is not Russian misinformation; it exists. The rumors o
 MP> > what it contains, though... that is speculation that the Russians tried 
 MP> > exploit.
 MP> The existence of the laptop itself was passed off as "russian
 MP> misinformation" by some, and simple "misinformation" by others, in both
 MP> cases by persons/groups who knew otherwise.

There is a laptop, that is certain. Whether it belonged to Hunter Biden some
years ago and contains incriminating information of some vague nature is
speculation.

 MP> >  MP> So, we already know that some of the "Russian disinformation/collus
 MP> >  MP> came from parties that are not Russian.
 MP> > The disinformation itself? It sounds more like you're saying that the
 MP> > accusations of disinformation/collusion came from parties that are not
 MP> > Russian, not the disinformation itself.
 MP> If the accusations are themselves disinformation, and the accusations are
 MP> of "Russian disinformation," then the "Russian disinformation" came from
 MP> parties that are not Russian.

The accusations of "Russian disinformation" are not "Russian disinformation"
unless they came from the Russians.

 MP> Maybe I should call it "'Russian disinformation' disinformation," but,
 MP> either way, it is still disinformation.

Or is it? Russians have been, and still are, busy spreading disinformation
via social media.

 MP> >  MP> How many times are the Democrats/FBI going to cry "Wolf!" (or maybe
 MP> >  MP> "Bear!") with "Russian misinformation/collussion" before people rea
 MP> >  MP> it is not always true?  When that happens (as it already has for ma
 MP> >  MP> us), when is it going to be true, in a way we really do need to wor
 MP> >  MP> about, and the majority of people are going to be desensitized to i
 MP> > The Russians are constantly trying to meddle in our politics, just as we
 MP> > meddle in the politics of other nations. Assuming they aren't is never a
 MP> > idea.
 MP> I would agree, but assuming that every call if it is true is also
 MP> horrible.

Facebook had data on Russian disinformation during the leadup to the 2016
election, and said that the posts regarding Hunter Biden's laptop were very
similar. I'd think they would know.

Jeff.

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