Subj : Re: fbi
To   : JEFF THIELE
From : Mike Powell
Date : Wed Aug 31 2022 16:54:00

>  MP> I specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton.  In the leadup to the 2020
>  MP> election, Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard said some things during a
>  MP> debate that got her a lot of attention but that also made HRC look bad.
>  MP> Soon, there was a rumor that one of the Democratic candidates "with a
>  MP> military background" was involved with Russia.  No names, but pretty
>  MP> obviously Gabbard.

> Clinton said that Russia was "grooming" Gabbard for a third-party run,
> specifically mentioning not collusion but the same kind of foreign social
> media support that Trump received in 2016. Gabbard had notably split with her
> party over policy on Russia, taking several pro-Putin stances.

HRC went farther than that with her second (or more?) go at Gabbard.
Gabbard had publicly split from the HRC wing of the party on many things
that put her at odds with HRC.

>  MP> Now, an example where it becomes apparent a government entity was
>  MP> involved in hiding something... "the Biden laptop is Russian
>  MP> misinformation" and does not exist, even though we are already in
>  MP> possession of it.

> The laptop itself is not Russian misinformation; it exists. The rumors of
> what it contains, though... that is speculation that the Russians tried to
> exploit.

The existence of the laptop itself was passed off as "russian
misinformation" by some, and simple "misinformation" by others, in both
cases by persons/groups who knew otherwise.

>  MP> So, we already know that some of the "Russian disinformation/collussion"
>  MP> came from parties that are not Russian.

> The disinformation itself? It sounds more like you're saying that the
> accusations of disinformation/collusion came from parties that are not
> Russian, not the disinformation itself.

If the accusations are themselves disinformation, and the accusations are
of "Russian disinformation," then the "Russian disinformation" came from
parties that are not Russian.

Maybe I should call it "'Russian disinformation' disinformation," but, either
way, it is still disinformation.

>  MP> How many times are the Democrats/FBI going to cry "Wolf!" (or maybe,
>  MP> "Bear!") with "Russian misinformation/collussion" before people realize
>  MP> it is not always true?  When that happens (as it already has for many of
>  MP> us), when is it going to be true, in a way we really do need to worry
>  MP> about, and the majority of people are going to be desensitized to it?

> The Russians are constantly trying to meddle in our politics, just as we
> meddle in the politics of other nations. Assuming they aren't is never a good
> idea.

I would agree, but assuming that every call if it is true is also horrible.


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