Subj : Re: Cashless Bail
To   : Aaron Thomas
From : Jeff Thiele
Date : Tue Jun 14 2022 07:49:20

On 12 Jun 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
 AT>  JT>  AT> We have only 1 kind of bail in NYS and it's cashless. No bail bo
 AT>  JT>  AT> paying bail, just letting them out as fast as we can so they don
 AT>  JT> [REDACTED] The New York state law originally made most misdemeanors
 AT>  JT> non-violent felonies eligible for cashless bail, with the remainder o
 AT>  JT> bail-eligible crimes remaining eligible for cash bail. It was then
 AT> JT> amended to move more crimes from the "cashless" to "cash" category. 
 AT> I stand corrected. There's still cash bail for certain offenses, but  
 AT> here's where you're still wrong: You say that people don't get out on  
 AT> cashless bail for "violent offenses," but aggravated sexual assault (for 
 AT> example) sounds violent to me.

You were so close, man. So close.

Here's what I think happened:

1. You misunderstood the New York bail reform to mean that the only type of
bail that New York has is cashless (which is incorrect; New York has both
cashless and cash bail, depending on the offense).

2. Thinking that New York has only cashless bail, you read or heard people
complaining about people being released on bail for aggravated sexual
assault. You assumed that they must be being released on cashless bail, since
you were under the impression that cashless bail was the only type of bail
available in NY. They were in fact complaining about people being released on
cash bail for this offense, because it had previously been bail-ineligible.

3. Upon finding out that there is in fact still cash bail in New York, you
acknowledged it, but can't seem to apply this to your previous thinking.

4. You continue to insist that aggravated sexual assault is
cashless-bail-eligible, which it isn't, because you found it on a list of
bail-eligible offenses and some part of your brain can't integrate new facts
into previous conclusions.

Jeff.

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