Subj : Re: Cashless Bail To : Aaron Thomas From : Jeff Thiele Date : Sun Jun 12 2022 10:47:50 On 12 Jun 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following... AT> JT> AT> We have only 1 kind of bail in NYS and it's cashless. No bail bo AT> JT> AT> paying bail, just letting them out as fast as we can so they don AT> I stand corrected. There's still cash bail for certain offenses, but AT> here's where you're still wrong: You say that people don't get out on AT> cashless bail for "violent offenses," but aggravated sexual assault (for AT> example) sounds violent to me. How do you know that people who commit aggravated sexual assault are eligible for cashless bail? Yesterday you thought there was no cash bail in NYS. AT> JT> You're mad at a law that doesn't exist. AT> The law still sucks, and the state is still seeing a gigantic crime AT> spike since April of 2019, when Cuomo signed the bill. Some Republicans AT> in the state senate got them to remove more offenses from the cashless AT> bail category, but it doesn't appear to have helped much. Perhaps that law is not the problem. AT> JT> AT> I'm an expert witness. I live here. There was a man charged with AT> JT> AT> strangulation for choking a woman in Johnson City. He was booked AT> JT> AT> released under the state's new bail law. Strangling a woman isn' AT> JT> AT> violent felony," it's just "a felony." AT> JT> How do you know he was released on cashless bail? It makes sense that AT> JT> might think he was, if you believe cashless bail is the only bail AT> JT> available. But it isn't. AT> I don't know *for sure* but it was in the local news. I see. AT> "In Broome County, some of the releases from the past week include: AT> Fifteen men and one woman arrested for strangulation. AT> A woman arrested for rape of a mentally disabled victim and injuring a AT> child. AT> Three men arrested for soliciting the sexual performance of a child. AT> Four men arrested for injuring a child. AT> A man charged with manslaughter recklessly causing a death" It doesn't say "releases on cashless bail," now does it? AT> That's a snippet from this article: AT> https://www.pressconnects.com/story/opinion/2020/01/10/new-york-bail-refor AT> fred-akshar-opinion-op-ed/2847544001/ Ah, an op-ed. Nice. Jeff. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32) * Origin: Cold War Computing BBS (1:387/26) .