Subj : Heeeeellllp To : Martin Foster From : August Abolins Date : Tue Mar 12 2019 20:35:07 Hello Martin, On Tuesday 11:50:00, you wrote: MF> I'm confused! Let me retry explaining. Since there was no way to fetch an UPPERCASE version of the arealist, I was prepared to manage the list manually - somehow. I happend to notice a file in: C:\home_directory_for_winpoint\WinPoint\MsgBase ...and looked inside the file: "2.221.1.0.EchoAreas" with notepad. I noticed that it only contained UPPERCASE text that corresponded to my prior feeble attempts to use Winpoint's "Use message as Arealist" function. The top section of the arealist *did* have some uppercase words, but they were the usually "hidden" header strings like MSGID and such. When I scrolled over those top lines, some of the uppercase strings ended up in the Winpoint's internal arealist. Those "strings" matched exactly what was in the "2.221.1.0.EchoAreas" file mentioned above. I also noticed that each line started with a "dot", then a space, and then the weird string. So I replaced the weird/bad strings with the area names I wanted. I saved the file, RELOADED Winpoint and noticed that the area names I entered showed up in the Manage Areas section, properly! Then, from that control screen, I proceeded to select the area names I wanted, to move them over to the right-side panel. After that, those areas then were listed in WinPoint's main screen folders section. Then I took another look inside the "Zone.Net.Node.0.EchoAreas" file and noticed a difference. The same areas were there as before, but each line started with an asterisk, then a space and then the area name. BEFORE: .. 1stAREANAME .. 2ndAREANAME .. 3rdAREANAME AFTER: * 1stAREANAME * 2ndAREANAME * 3rdAREANAME Therefore, the asterisk represents the areas that have been "activated" to show up in the WinPoint folders panel. This means that I can build my own area list by first changing all the original lower-case text to uppercase, add a dot and a space just before the area name, and save that as my complete "Zone.Net.Node.0.EchoAreas" file to use. Maybe you can add a section to your fine manual about this uppercase/lowercase issue, and provide an explanation with a workaround as above. WinPoint seems to be quite a fine all-in-one program for supporting echomail access without needing any other fancy FTN support programs. I am currently switching back and forth between WinPoint and the newsgroup (nntp) method with Thunderbird. Both have advantages and disadvantages. I was thinking of writing up a comparison of those. Anyway.. I hope this rewrite has cleared some of the original confusion. Once again.. great job of tackling a manual for WinPoint! .../|ug --- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1) * Origin: My Winpoint (2:221/1.58) .