Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (148)
To   : Matthias Hertzog
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Mon Jun 14 2021 12:21:27

Hello Matthias,

On Saturday June 12 2021 08:57, you wrote to me:

 MV>> In your next message I read that you pay SFR 44/month for 1 GB
 MV>> sysmetric. That is cheap!.

 MH> It's CHF 34.00 / Month.

Yeah, I misread.

 MV>> SFR 44 = EUR 40 a month for 1GB sysmetric is reaaly cheap even if
 MV>> they only offer CGNAT IPv4 and no IPv6. So that may explain why
 MV>> they are faced with an acute shortage of IPv4.

 MH> I've tried to lease them some of my IPs, but they said, they have
 MH> enough.

When they do not give public IPs to their customers, it is easy to have enough...

 MH>>> I know some of the people there and see exactly why things are like
 MH>>> they are. They have a new CTO, so i expect some changes in the
 MH>>> future. Just had a nice chat with him yesterday about IP-addresses
 MH>>> :-)

 MV>> And what did he have to say?

 MH> They seem to have other (more pressing) issues on the table for now.

Very informative...

 MV>> Here KPN (the incumbant) has recently changed from AON to GPON
 MV>> for their fiber network.

 MH> Same here in switzerland with swisscom. Lawsuits are already in the
 MH> making.

Lawsuits? By whom? To achieve what?

 MV>> Cost they say, but I suspect it mostly serves to make it more
 MV>> difficult to share  the physical layer with other providers.

 MH> Yes, and it help to keep up the monipoly on the access line.

Obviously...

 MV>> The other mayor player, Ziggo is now involved in a court
 MV>> case over free choice of cable modems.

 MH> We had that figt here a long time ago. If was resolved primarily by
 MH> onger selling the devices to the clients. Devices are given out
 MH> for free. Some ISP allow own routers, typically on FTTH, not on
 MH> Docsis.

Here the cable ISPs have always handed out "free" modems. But the problem is the low quality of these things. Some customers (me included) want better quality and are willing to pay for it. Hence the desire to buy one's own DOCSIS modem/router. But Ziggo is fighting tooth and nail to prevent it. I expect they will evetually loose that battle because every alleged problem they bring in, seems to not be a problem in Germany an Italy where free modem choice has been a fact for several years now.

 MV>> As I said, it is too important to leave it to the market. The
 MV>> infrastructure should be public property, to be available for
 MV>> every provider on an equal opportunity basis.

 MH> Correct. Unfortunatly, a lot of (typically small) town did not get
 MH> that and were overrun by swisscom. They missed the opportunity to make
 MH> the fiber network an infrastructure service like electricity and
 MH> water.

 MH> Personally, i'm soooo happy to be off this caroussel.

Good for you. Enjoy the freedom! ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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