Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (148)
To   : Michiel van der Vlist
From : Matthias Hertzog
Date : Sat Jun 12 2021 08:57:05

Hello Michiel!

 MV> In your next message I read that you pay SFR 44/month for 1 GB
 MV> sysmetric. That is cheap!.

It's CHF 34.00 / Month.

 MV> SFR 44 = EUR 40 a month for 1GB sysmetric is reaaly cheap even if they
 MV> only offer CGNAT IPv4 and no IPv6. So that may explain why they are
 MV> faced with an acute shortage of IPv4.

I've tried to lease them some of my IPs, but they said, they have enough.

 MH>> No, it's not. In fact, one of the oldest. www.green.ch But as
 MH>> i've said before: "Conservative".
 MV> "Conservative" may work against them in the long run...

True.

 MH>> I know some of the people there and see exactly why things are
 MH>> like they are. They have a new CTO, so i expect some changes in
 MH>> the future. Just had a nice chat with him yesterday about
 MH>> IP-addresses :-)
 MV> And what did he have to say?

They seem to have other (more pressing) issues on the table for now.

 MV> Here KPN (the incumbant) has recently changed from AON to GPON for
 MV> their fiber network.

Same here in switzerland with swisscom. Lawsuits are already in the making.

 MV> Cost they say, but I suspect it mostly serves to
 MV> make it more difficult to share  the physical layer with other
 MV> providers.

Yes, and it help to keep up the monipoly on the access line.

 MV> The other mayor player, Ziggo is now involved in a court
 MV> case over free choice of cable modems.

We had that figt here a long time ago. If was resolved primarily by
onger selling the devices to the clients. Devices are given out
for free. Some ISP allow own routers, typically on FTTH, not on Docsis.

 MH>> When i ran my ISP, we always went to the open access networks and
 MH>> had a great success with it. A lot of cities here went the right
 MH>> way and installed FTTH networks which they rent to providers on
 MH>> L2/L3. That works, allows competition and is hassle-free for
 MH>> endusers.
 MV> I'd say you can't leave this to the market. The big ones will always
 MV> win in the end.

My company was one of the bigger ones within the pool of smaller ones.
There were cities where we were number 1. After selling my company to
one of the even bigger players, things got more easy productwise.

 MV> As I said, it is too important to leave it to the market. The
 MV> infrastructure should be public property, to be available for every
 MV> provider on an equal opportunity basis.

Correct. Unfortunatly, a lot of (typically small) town did not get that
and were overrun by swisscom. They missed the opportunity to make the
fiber network an infrastructure service like electricity and water.

Personally, i'm soooo happy to be off this caroussel.

Matthias
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