Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (113)
To   : Matthias Hertzog
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Tue Apr 27 2021 10:39:37

Hello Matthias,

On Sunday April 25 2021 20:12, you wrote to me:

 MV>> What it boils down to is: "wan't to play our game? play by our
 MV>> rules".

 MH> EU courts have no say in switzerland. That's a very interesting topic
 MH> here as well, switzerland is waiting for the first case.

EU courts have no say in Switserland. But Switserland is not an isolated universe. It has borders and every border has two sides. Both sides have a say about what crosses that border. Be it people, goods or data.

 MH>>> Ahhhh, that whole GDPR thing sucks.

 MV>> I can understand why you see it that way, but I beg to differ. As
 MV>> an EU citizen I am happy that the EU protects my privacy against
 MV>> ruthless data horders not only in the EU, but outside the EU as
 MV>> well. That it can sometimes be inconvenient when I am on the data
 MV>> gathering side is something that I accept.

 MH> Data hoarding is one thing and i agree with you. Blocking legitimate
 MH> handling of client data is something else.

The whole idea of GDPR is to define what is "legitimate handling of client data" and not let the handler decide what is legitimate and what is not.

 MH> You don't want to know what an ISP here HAS to do and what it is
 MH> not allowed to do. Depending on who i nthe government you talk,
 MH> you get conflicting instructions.

That only goes to show that jura is not math. ;-)

 MV>> If the organisation can not or will not follow the rules of the
 MV>> GDPR that can indeed be a consequence. Play our game? Follow our
 MV>> rules. It is a choice...

 MH> That's true, but it was the german clients who complained about
 MH> no longer being able to receive their services from switzerland.

I can't comment on that because I do not know the circumstances.

 MV>> I agree with you that R30 probably does not belong in the list of
 MV>> countries where the GDPR applies to Fidonet. The list as
 MV>> published in the header of the nodelist. Let's leave it at that
 MV>> before we drift too far from the  topic of this conference.

 MH> Fully agree. :-)

The exception might be when a sysops in R30 accepts points that reside in the EU.


Cheers, Michiel

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