Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (113) To : Michiel van der Vlist From : Matthias Hertzog Date : Sat Apr 24 2021 11:58:41 Hello Michiel! MV> I am not a lawyer, I will never be a lawyer and I don't even want to MV> be a lawyer. Having said that, it is my understanding that the scope MV> of the GDPR is not limited to organisations offering paid services, it MV> also applies to volunteer organisations where no money changes hands. MV> Such as Fidonet. That's disputed, at least here in switzerland. Ahhhh, that whole GDPR thing sucks. MH>> Down to the details, FidoNet in switzerland is not: MH>> - Having an office in the EU area MH>> - Not having EU residents as clients MV> How about net 303? The Hrusca's are from Romenia. They are EU MV> citzens... .... but swiss residents. And that matters. It's a matter of geographic location and not citizenship. MH>> Therefore, GDPR does not apply to FidoNet Region 2:30. MV> Are you sure? Have you asked a lawyer? I've done the DGPR compliance on my previous job, so yes, i've asked a lawyer, even several of them. Instead of better answers i've got more questions. As long as there are no cases in switzerland, we have no real point of reference. We have a lot of opinions, but even among the swiss lawyers, the opinions are "controversial", to say it a nice way. As one consequence of GDPR, we had to cancel the contracts with all our EU clients, but that's another story. I better don't tell more about this here, or i might need a lawyer by myself. Ooops! I was lucky enough to leave the company before the thing got hot, but as far as i've heard from my successor, nothing happened so far. A good friend of mine is specialized in exactly these things, but i don't want to bother her with FidoNet, as she's not working for free. (In fact, she owes me a favour, but i don't want to waste that for this non-issue). Matthias --- GoldED+/W64-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: MHS Systems (2:301/1) .