Subj : Re: Nlcheck report To : Carlos Navarro From : Dan Clough Date : Sun Jan 04 2026 14:01:56 -=> Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=- DC> This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he DC> could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not DC> allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could DC> be on the FTSC. DC> Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this DC> guy on the FTSC so badly? DC> Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number DC> like anyone else would be required to do? DC> Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he DC> accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet? CN> If I'm not mistaken, Ward has encouraged that the FTSC consists of CN> people that have contributed to the advancement of Fidonet, CN> particularly FTN developers. Sure, and I have no problem or disagreement with that. CN> No doubt, Tim is one of them. Winpoint is an excellent Fidonet program, CN> and he has been maintaining and improving it recently. I don't use or know about Winpoint, but I recognize that as a true and valuable contribution. CN> I believe that he deserves a node number so that he can be a member of CN> the FTSC, or just because of his contribution to Fidonet. However, if CN> he cannot (or simply doesn't want to) maintain a connectable node, CN> there should be no problem if he is assigned a Pvt node (perhaps in a CN> net in R24 or any other one) instead of a RIN. No doubt that he deserves a node number! That isn't really my point. It doesn't have to be a PVT node number is what I'm saying. Especially when that practice (PVT node) is *SPECIFICALLY* NOT ALLOWED as a Zone/Region Independent node. See section 2.1.9 of Policy 4 on that. You mentioned that he is a RIN, but actually it's a ZIN. Not allowed. Either he should be a PVT node in a Network somewhere, or a ZIN with an actual node number (not PVT). As for connectable, that's easy... It would be a "MO" node, with no "CM" flag. Done. So, hey Ward. How about your input on this? How do you justify this blatant disregard for P4, as the ZC/IC...? .... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960 === MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.34-Linux * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:135/115) .